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       #Post#: 88934--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership games to be moved around country 
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: April 20, 2022, 9:26 am
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       I don't think it's so much for clubs with already established
       events. We have HQ just across the road and now go there twice a
       year. Sarries have their game at White Hart Lane. I think it'll
       be more likely to see some kind of midlands double header at
       Villa Park or something maybe?
       #Post#: 88935--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership games to be moved around country 
   DIR By: MadMax
       Date: April 20, 2022, 9:36 am
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       So let's bring Premiership rugby to Yorkshire and have Newcastle
       play Sale in Leeds for example. It's a great game especially as
       the local Yorkshire crowd weren't upset by having to cheer any
       Lancastrians in the Sale side (yes I know Sale is in Cheshire)
       and they like South Africans anyway. The result is they decide
       Premiership rugby is for them so they look at the fixture list
       for the next game they can attend and find it's either a fifty
       mile trip to Manchester or a hundred mile trip to Newcastle. So
       they say sod that and forget about it. Meanwhile back at
       Newcastle and Sale the local supporters are totally pissed off.
       A perfect way to shoot yourself in the foot with both barrels.
       It's a plan worthy of the ECB!
       #Post#: 88936--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership games to be moved around country 
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: April 20, 2022, 9:44 am
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       I wonder if the better bet might be for the Women's XVs to
       travel a bit and build a wider support base, interleaved with
       the occasional travelling men's game.
       #Post#: 88938--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership games to be moved around country 
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: April 20, 2022, 10:15 am
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       --- Quote from: poorfour link ---
       >
       > I wonder if the better bet might be for the Women's XVs to
       travel a bit and build a wider support base, interleaved with
       the occasional travelling men's game.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       They already are playing at different venues throughout the 6
       Nations (Welford Road is predicted to break the record set two
       weeks ago at Kingsholm). The real driver would be to play mens
       internationals at other venues. The last one I can remember was
       in the 2015 World Cup. Before that, the last time I can find
       that they played an England-based game outside of Twickenham
       were two tests back in 1998 in World Cup Qualification that were
       played in Huddersfield, one against Argentina & one against the
       mighty Netherlands and the 2009 game against Argentina played at
       Old Trafford. Even that doesn't really count as it was part of
       the "tour to Argentina" but played here to allow ARFU to get
       some extra cash.
       Take the England games to big stadia in Newcastle, Manchester,
       Birmingham, etc, and you'll be guaranteed to draw far more fans
       than you would taking a club game to the same venues.
       #Post#: 88940--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership games to be moved around country 
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: April 20, 2022, 10:27 am
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       The RFU is aiming to sell out Twickenham when they host the 2025
       WRWC - but I was thinking more about the Premier 15s. They need
       to build a bit of a supporter base, and in areas of the country
       where there isn't a Premiership men's club, it might be easier
       to get traction if there was a willingness to invest over a
       number of seasons.
       #Post#: 88941--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership games to be moved around country 
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: April 20, 2022, 10:42 am
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       --- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
       >
       > They already are playing at different venues throughout the 6
       Nations (Welford Road is predicted to break the record set two
       weeks ago at Kingsholm). The real driver would be to play mens
       internationals at other venues. The last one I can remember was
       in the 2015 World Cup. Before that, the last time I can find
       that they played an England-based game outside of Twickenham
       were two tests back in 1998 in World Cup Qualification that were
       played in Huddersfield, one against Argentina & one against the
       mighty Netherlands and the 2009 game against Argentina played at
       Old Trafford. Even that doesn't really count as it was part of
       the "tour to Argentina" but played here to allow ARFU to get
       some extra cash.
       >
       > Take the England games to big stadia in Newcastle, Manchester,
       Birmingham, etc, and you'll be guaranteed to draw far more fans
       than you would taking a club game to the same venues.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Didn't England play at St James' Park against Italy as a warm up
       for WC2019? Marchant scored that day if I remember rightly! But
       yes, it's rare for England to play outside London these days.
       #Post#: 88942--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership games to be moved around country 
   DIR By: D-Quins
       Date: April 20, 2022, 10:59 am
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       Let's be honest the RFU have stadium that they can fill and
       there are few other stadiums with a bigger capacity.  We all
       need the RFU to maximize its income.  The international game
       funds the rest of rugby as well and frankly Twickenham is a cash
       cow!
       #Post#: 88943--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership games to be moved around country 
   DIR By: Quin Kong
       Date: April 20, 2022, 11:11 am
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       Interesting thread. For Prem games it seems that we use HQ.
       Sarries use Tottenhams’ new ground. London Irish are still
       building their home support so don’t need another venue to be
       out supported by the opposition 😉.
       Outside of London, Leicester, Gloucester, Wasps and Bristol have
       large enough grounds that there would be no point in trying new
       areas leaving Bath and Exeter (probably Bath) but where? (not
       Wales as that seems a bit wrong in trying to expand the English
       game). Northampton seem to have a large enough support in North
       Norfolk so could see them moving a game from the 15k Franklins
       Gardens to the 27k Carrow Road (maybe against Leicester).
       Worcester, Newcastle and Sale have small stadiums but have a lot
       of competition from football (and the latter two from League)
       but I believe Newcastle have had at least one successful game
       held at St James’ Park.
       I think under Lancaster (ironically) there was a big push to
       appeal to the North for the England World Cup with numerous
       players being played from the region (most notably in Burgess)
       and one game being played in Manchester (Samoa?) so not new.
       #Post#: 88944--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership games to be moved around country 
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: April 20, 2022, 12:01 pm
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       I think that saints moved a game or two to stadium Milton Keynes
       which has a capacity of around 30k
       #Post#: 88945--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership games to be moved around country 
   DIR By: northstand
       Date: April 20, 2022, 12:25 pm
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       I also went to the AUH game, even went to the drinks reception
       Wasps put on at the Emirates Palace for those who purchased
       tickets.
       I liked it purely for the fact that it was an away game and
       getting a few days of winter sun whilst I was there and quite
       frankly it was probably a lot easier and enjoyable than an
       afternoon at Adam’s Park.
       Having said that if it was a home game I wouldn’t have been
       quite so hospitable to the idea.
       Think we are at the forefront of trying to grow the base already
       with our 2 Big Stoop games and will probably not see anything
       else our end (bar a knockout HQ move maybe) and whilst after the
       first 3 or so BG’s I have subsequently given up my ‘free’ seat
       to friends to use I can see once my family get older there will
       personally be more of an appeal, the summer one I’m willing to
       give it a crack this season and next.
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