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Re: QUINS v SALE 19:45
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: March 30, 2022, 5:59 am
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Match report from the Telegraph is here
HTML https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/03/30/point-premiership-cup-rugby-coaches-dont-even-want-win/
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Re: QUINS v SALE 19:45
DIR By: Quinston Churchill
Date: March 30, 2022, 6:53 am
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Result aside, I think we got a lot of what we would have wanted
from this game. Ultimately this competition is not a priority
for us and it’s more important for us to use it as a rehab and
development opportunity.
Ramping up Evans’ and David’s participation, giving more game
time to the likes of Hammond, Jurevicius and Beard, finally
giving CSW a run out and a great debut for Cleaves.
I’m not really too bothered if Gray, Chisholm and Stafford were
among our weaker players. We’re talking about squad players who
are 3rd or 4th choice and won’t trouble our 23 unless we have a
major injury crisis.
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Re: QUINS v SALE 19:45
DIR By: Stoopendous
Date: March 30, 2022, 7:04 am
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> Match report from the Telegraph is here
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Can anybody do the necessary so that we can read this?
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Re: QUINS v SALE 19:45
DIR By: never sleep
Date: March 30, 2022, 7:06 am
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>
> Jurevicius - I'll keep this short and sweet. He's now pushing
Lawday and Chis for the 6 shirt. What a quality young player he
already is.
>
> Taulani - probably the highlight for me. FINALLY he's using
his physique, picking lines, CRASHING through weak shoulders.
Controlled well at the base of the scrum too this time. Worked
hard in defence. Didn't do anything stupid. I think we all knew
he had promise but this half of rugby was what I was worried I
might never see. Now I've seen it, I'm a very happy boy. Guy's a
monster. When Dommers is back, Taulani needs to be given the 20
shirt whenever fit - off the bench in the last 20/30, playing
like that, he'll do damage. And when Dommers is away, I now
trust him to look after the 8 shirt.
>
> Stafford - haven't seen the mare yet (aside from the intercept
pass he threw in their 22). Had a very solid first half - moved
us around really well. Box kicking a bit hit and miss. I think
the issue I have with him is he doesn't fill me with excitement.
I'm not sitting there wondering what he might do next to inject
some pace, but he definitely didn't slow us down. Gjaltema is
ahead of him for me though.
>
> Anyanwu - another highlight, another unsurprising classy
display from a youngster who seems ready to fulfil his
potential. Looks like he provides what we need from our centres:
hard lines, stays on his feet, offloads out of the tackle, gets
us going forward. Puts his considerable weight into tackles and
it really feels like he's got an old head on his shoulders
already. He's got more of a challenge getting onto the team
sheet for Prem and Champs Cup, but feels like he's only an
injury to a front-line centre away from being in the mix. I will
debate anyone who wants to argue that we don't have the best
stable of centres in the league.
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My take on their performances.
Jurevicius and Anyanwu - unlike a lot of the other players,
these 2 have been getting a lot of game time in the Championship
this season and have shown some form. I think that the regular
game time shows.
Stafford - he seems to have a weak pass when he passes to the
left. The ball gets flighted. I suspect that this could be a
weakness that could be targeted by other teams.
Taulani - he had a few good moves and scored a nice try (after
an assist by Anyanwu I think??). But, he appeared to take the
ball static and was often easy to defend against. Maybe this
will improve with gametime.
And lastly, David - he was guilty of being out of position and
letting the ball bounce. I think he will improve with game time
at FB.
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Re: QUINS v SALE 19:45
DIR By: never sleep
Date: March 30, 2022, 7:06 am
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> Can anybody do the necessary so that we can read this?
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Re: QUINS v SALE 19:45
DIR By: Mayor West
Date: March 30, 2022, 1:44 pm
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Going back to the yellows before half time, I know what they
were for, it was the fact that they went off a couple of minutes
apart and with only about 5 mins to go but they both came back
on at the start of the second half. It didn’t seem like they got
10 mins each.
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Re: QUINS v SALE 19:45
DIR By: Quinofthestoneage
Date: March 30, 2022, 3:18 pm
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For what it's worth I thought CSW was ok. He did that thing that
Olly Kohn used to do a lot which was to soak up a lot of bodies
and create space for back rowers (Taulani was the main
beneficiary of this last night). Not the fastest bloke on the
pitch by any means, but very useful none the less.
On the backs, Cleeves and Hyde both looked good, but I'd be
interested to see how they go against a cannier and more
experienced opposition back 3. I suspect that someone like Jack
Nowell or Charlie Piatau would just be able to marshall Cleeves
out of the game, but I may be wrong.
Ross did have a shocker, no question, but I think people
forget what a good player he was when he was younger and playing
at 14/15 . Nine or ten years ago before his first big injury he
was gunshot rapid and had a real eye for a finish. He's at the
end of his career now for sure, but none of us know what he
might be bringing to the team behind the scenes. A lot of people
on here used to give Charlie Mulcrone grief as a player, but he
was important enough to the club to want to employ him as a
coach. Perhaps it's the same with Ross?
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Re: QUINS v SALE 19:45
DIR By: The Absolute Quintet
Date: March 30, 2022, 4:39 pm
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--- Quote from: Quinofthestoneage link ---
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> On the backs, Cleeves and Hyde both looked good, but I'd be
interested to see how they go against a cannier and more
experienced opposition back 3. I suspect that someone like Jack
Nowell or Charlie Piatau would just be able to marshall Cleeves
out of the game, but I may be wrong.
>
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Tuesday’s back line was shredded by a relatively ordinary Sale
set! I thought Anyanwu with ball was excellent but, on
reflection overnight, him Beard and the wingers were
consistently unconnected in defence. It seemed mainly a centres
issue with 12 pushing up too much and 13 holding off and
drifting too much. They weren’t on the same page.
Completely agree your analysis of Ross. So sad to see him leave
the pitch that way as one suspects that might be his last. I was
appalled by Dan Coles’ tackle that day, it looked deliberately
‘clumsy’, much like that incident yesterday.
For me, sir and his assistant sirs, allowed a typically bullish
Sale team to do some ugly stuff that wouldn’t get a clean bill
in the Prem with TV analysis etc. Our injury list was long and
there were several ‘punch ups’ with, one one example, their 4
holding onto the ball and raising his hands to the face of
Stafford following a Quins pen. He should have walked for that
and they would have been down to 12.
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Re: QUINS v SALE 19:45
DIR By: Ignoramus
Date: March 30, 2022, 7:37 pm
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--- Quote from: Quinofthestoneage link ---
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> Ross did have a shocker, no question, but I think people
forget what a good player he was when he was younger and playing
at 14/15 . Nine or ten years ago before his first big injury he
was gunshot rapid and had a real eye for a finish. He's at the
end of his career now for sure, but none of us know what he
might be bringing to the team behind the scenes.
>
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I was up at Leicester watching Quins some years back where I
think Ross had a major injury. I'm sure it was him. IMO he never
got back to where he had been after that.
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Re: QUINS v SALE 19:45
DIR By: poorfour
Date: March 31, 2022, 1:55 am
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Yes, a (legal but brutal) clear out from Dan Cole that buckled
his knee. He had another bad injury on the other knee, too. It's
remarkable that he got back to the level he has, but sad that we
didn't get to see what he might have been.
I was at Cobham RFC at the weekend and their clubhouse is
basically a memorial to players whose potential was never fully
realised - Corbisiero, Lowe and Clifford all have shirts on the
wall along with many others.
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