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       #Post#: 86928--------------------------------------------------
       Joe Marler's Unwanted England Record
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: March 22, 2022, 4:47 am
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       and a few others
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       Re: Joe Marler's Unwanted England Record
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: March 22, 2022, 5:08 am
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       Some good ones there. Marler's not really a stat, if it was a
       winger or a centre it would have more impact. He's only really
       got, what, 3 for Quins?
       Danny's is ridiculous but if he hadn't have, Ben 'continental
       plate' Youngs wouldn't have the all time caps record.
       And as for Hartley's, so sad that many good England players of
       that era don't have Lions caps, thanks Gatland!!!
       #Post#: 86942--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Joe Marler's Unwanted England Record
   DIR By: Camquin
       Date: March 22, 2022, 8:15 am
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       I do not expect my props to score tries, I want them to dominate
       scrums, lift in the line out, make hard yards and win me
       penalties.
       They do a lot of the work for the tries that the hooker dots
       down from the back of the maul.
       #Post#: 86944--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Joe Marler's Unwanted England Record
   DIR By: Nicholas P
       Date: March 22, 2022, 8:20 am
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       Along similar lines, I saw Will Greenwood's tweet this morning
       about his 40 word 6 Nations synopsis of each England player.  If
       anyone in the UK has a subscription, would you be naughty enough
       to copy the article here so I and others can read it?  Thank
       you!
       #Post#: 86952--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Joe Marler's Unwanted England Record
   DIR By: Monte
       Date: March 22, 2022, 9:57 am
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       --- Quote from: Camquin link ---
       >
       > I do not expect my props to score tries, I want them to
       dominate scrums, lift in the line out, make hard yards and win
       me penalties.
       >
       > They do a lot of the work for the tries that the hooker dots
       down from the back of the maul.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Will Collier will be in tears….
       #Post#: 86956--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Joe Marler's Unwanted England Record
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: March 22, 2022, 10:35 am
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       --- Quote from: Monte link ---
       >
       >
       > Will Collier will be in tears….
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Spot on, Monte…
       #Post#: 86977--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Joe Marler's Unwanted England Record
   DIR By: Jedzi
       Date: March 22, 2022, 4:45 pm
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       --- Quote from: NewYorkQuin link ---
       >
       > Along similar lines, I saw Will Greenwood's tweet this morning
       about his 40 word 6 Nations synopsis of each England player.  If
       anyone in the UK has a subscription, would you be naughty enough
       to copy the article here so I and others can read it?  Thank
       you!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think you can get a free account for the Telegraph which
       allows you to read one article a week.
       #Post#: 86988--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Joe Marler's Unwanted England Record
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: March 23, 2022, 6:41 am
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       --- Quote from: Camquin link ---
       >
       > I do not expect my props to score tries, I want them to
       dominate scrums, lift in the line out, make hard yards and win
       me penalties.
       >
       > They do a lot of the work for the tries that the hooker dots
       down from the back of the maul.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You forgot crunching tackles. Marler is one of the best
       defenders in international rugby, especially when it comes to
       flattening backs. I've even seen international wingers and fly
       halves run down his channel, think better of it and scoot around
       like age grade players looking for somewhere to run that doesn't
       involve getting smashed.
       #Post#: 86993--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Joe Marler's Unwanted England Record
   DIR By: TeddingtonQuin
       Date: March 23, 2022, 8:48 am
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
       >
       > And as for Hartley's, so sad that many good England players of
       that era don't have Lions caps, thanks Gatland!!!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes. ask either of the Robshaws about that. Dreadful that
       neither received a Lions cap
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       Re: Joe Marler's Unwanted England Record
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: March 23, 2022, 10:50 am
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       And Mike.
       But probably blame Lancaster for shoving him on the wing.
       Even then he was significantly better than Maitland.
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