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       #Post#: 85138--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Eggchasers podcast
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: February 21, 2022, 2:13 pm
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       --- Quote from: AdrianB link ---
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       > Not really a misunderstanding.
       > Jones dismissed the research on discrimination in women's
       rugby saying in his experience the research was b******s.
       > Laurie quote tweeted. " Embarrassing! Grow up, and contribute
       to the discussion positively
       🤦🏻‍♂️ "
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Since it’s well beyond the point of statistical significance
       that everything Stephen Jones utters is utter tosh, surely
       Lawrie should just have thanked him for offering irrefutable
       support to the research?
       #Post#: 85139--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Eggchasers podcast
   DIR By: Quinston Churchill
       Date: February 21, 2022, 3:10 pm
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       I’ve clearly missed something here, but what is the research
       that’s causing such a furore?
       #Post#: 85141--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Eggchasers podcast
   DIR By: Adrian
       Date: February 21, 2022, 3:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: Quinston Churchill link ---
       >
       > I’ve clearly missed something here, but what is the research
       that’s causing such a furore?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
  HTML https://www.quins.co.uk/news/new-research-shines-light-on-discrimonation-in-womens-rugby/
       #Post#: 85147--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Eggchasers podcast
   DIR By: Comet
       Date: February 21, 2022, 5:04 pm
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       They are generally pretty negative towards Quins. Or, if we win
       (the league), not particularly effusive in  their credit. They
       are entitled to their opinions. They love the game and love
       Sale, Exeter, Sale, Wasps, Sale and Worcester.
       I generally enjoy their chat about the various games and can
       appreciate their enthusiasm for the game. On this occasion,
       though, it turned my stomach. JB went to great lengths to trash
       the research. Okay, I get his point that research can be
       engineered to prove the desired conclusion. I suppose you have
       to decide if you believe the data or not.
       However, the whole point about the day was to promote diversity
       and inclusion and demonstrate what a welcome environment rugby
       is. I am immensely proud of the club for doing so. I run an
       LGBTQ+ group at my school to try and support students who
       struggle with the overt and subtle prejudices of society. When I
       tell them what Quins do they are so impressed. Because no one
       else does anything! (That I know of).
       Well done Quins. I am so proud of you being more than a rugby
       club.
       #Post#: 85151--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Eggchasers podcast
   DIR By: Quinston Churchill
       Date: February 22, 2022, 2:23 am
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       --- Quote from: AdrianB link ---
       >
       >
  HTML https://www.quins.co.uk/news/new-research-shines-light-on-discrimonation-in-womens-rugby/
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks for sharing. I genuinely have no idea why it’s so
       objectionable.
       From a purely anecdotal POV, I have played touch rugby with a
       number of women who are put off playing full contact rugby for
       some of these reasons (and that’s a cross section of straight,
       some openly gay and some I don’t know and didn’t feel the need
       to ask).
       If our research challenges discriminatory behaviour it should be
       supported not dismissed.
       #Post#: 85155--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Eggchasers podcast
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: February 22, 2022, 3:01 am
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       To be a little bit critical, in my opinion.
       There is nothing wrong with the study.
       However, the post from Quins could be framed a little bit
       differently.
       It just says - These are all the things wrong, etc
       It is missing the last paragraph that would say
       "And this is what we are going to do about it"
       "This is what we are going to help to fix"
       "These are our targets", etc
       The above is discussed - but it waffles a bit.
       And lastly, there should be details of support agencies, etc.
       In my opinion, having the Pride match, etc gives such a positive
       message.
       I think we should follow this up with a "Women in Rugby" event
       where we focus on women in rugby.
       E.g. 1/2 time games on the pitch by girls teams. Activities that
       are all targeted at women. Sara Cox as ref, Women as announcers
       and ask BT to supply an female comms team, an all girl band in
       the bar afterwards, etc, etc.
       International women's day is in March - It is probably a bit
       late for 2022 - but, would be nice to think about targeting it
       for 2023
       #Post#: 85158--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Eggchasers podcast
   DIR By: Stoopendous
       Date: February 22, 2022, 3:53 am
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       --- Quote from: Comet link ---
       >
       > JB went to great lengths to trash the research. Okay, I get
       his point that research can be engineered to prove the desired
       conclusion. I suppose you have to decide if you believe the data
       or not.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       To be honest, if I were the author of the research I would be
       more than a little miffed by JB (who he?)'s comments which were
       borderline libellous.
       #Post#: 85160--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Eggchasers podcast
   DIR By: Monte
       Date: February 22, 2022, 4:10 am
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       As one of the few women on here regularly I absolutely do not
       want female announcers. Our voices are mostly far too high
       pitched for this role. It is also a problem with female
       commentators particularly the ones who never stop talking and
       don’t seem to understand less is more. The latter applies to
       cricket as well.
       #Post#: 85167--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Eggchasers podcast
   DIR By: Portquin
       Date: February 22, 2022, 4:39 am
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       Eggchasers is a great listen  - if you don't like opinions don't
       listen to it.
       They can be negative about every club and give credit to clubs
       when it's due. It's not a Quins love in but they defo give us a
       huge amount of credit when they think it's due. I'd also say
       Bath gets the most negative press but then you can see why.
       As with all podcasts they have opinions and some of them I agree
       with, and some of them don't. I'll keep listening though because
       I appreciate we are lucky to live in a country where you can
       express your opinions.
       #Post#: 85170--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Eggchasers podcast
   DIR By: Stoopendous
       Date: February 22, 2022, 4:55 am
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       --- Quote from: Portquin link ---
       >
       > As with all podcasts they have opinions and some of them I
       agree with, and some of them don't. I'll keep listening though
       because I appreciate we are lucky to live in a country where you
       can express your opinions.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Don't disagree with that.  I don't think anyone is suggesting we
       shouldn't listen to the podcast.  I agree, it's almost always a
       good listen. '
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