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       #Post#: 734--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Nigel Owens column
   DIR By: Boonie
       Date: July 5, 2018, 4:13 am
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       It can't be that difficult to do, can it? Extra ten yards for
       first backchat, yellow for second, red for third. Wouldn't take
       too long for that to sink in, even for some of the less
       intellectually gifted amongst them.
       I think the problem is at all levels in the game though - from
       managers of Premiership clubs to parents at the touchline, it
       seems that the football ref is fair game for anyone to have a
       pop at. Until and unless the governing bodies give the ref the
       authority and ammunition to deal with this, it won't change.
       #Post#: 742--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Nigel Owens column
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: July 5, 2018, 4:59 am
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       I always avoided refereeing my kids footy games because,
       frankly, I'd have ended up in prison for responding to all the
       rubbish that goes on.
       #Post#: 757--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Nigel Owens column
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: July 5, 2018, 7:54 am
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       --- Quote from: Boonie link ---
       >
       > Extra ten yards for first backchat,
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not sure that the 10 yards thing would work in soccer.  It
       is more about possession than territory.  Quite often, the ball
       is kicked backwards from a free kick anyway.  Also, it brings
       complexity if the backchat is near the goal - would the free
       kick get upgraded to a penalty?
       I like the idea of just yellow carding a few players.  It
       wouldn't take long for the message to get around.  But, it needs
       to start in non-international games first. Another approach
       would be to hand a 2 minute time-out (i.e. sin-binning) and
       apply it to all players that are involved.  You might get some
       amusing scenarios where there are only a few players on the
       pitch.
       One thing that they should have though is a citing process after
       the game.  I.e. record all conversation and give people a ban if
       the discussion merits it.  Also, this would stop players trying
       to head-butt each other when the ref is looking the other way.
       #Post#: 758--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Nigel Owens column
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: July 5, 2018, 7:56 am
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       I can't believe the people that came up with the offside rule
       can't find a solution to this! :)
       #Post#: 764--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Nigel Owens column
   DIR By: test1
       Date: July 5, 2018, 8:37 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Boonie link=topic=47.msg734#msg734
       date=1530782026]
       > Extra ten yards for first backchat,
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not sure that the 10 yards thing would work in soccer.  It
       is more about possession than territory.  Quite often, the ball
       is kicked backwards from a free kick anyway.  Also, it brings
       complexity if the backchat is near the goal - would the free
       kick get upgraded to a penalty?
       I like the idea of just yellow carding a few players.  It
       wouldn't take long for the message to get around.  But, it needs
       to start in non-international games first. Another approach
       would be to hand a 2 minute time-out (i.e. sin-binning) and
       apply it to all players that are involved.  You might get some
       amusing scenarios where there are only a few players on the
       pitch.
       One thing that they should have though is a citing process after
       the game.  I.e. record all conversation and give people a ban if
       the discussion merits it.  Also, this would stop players trying
       to head-butt each other when the ref is looking the other way.
       [/quote]
       They did use the 10 yards (metres?) rule in football a few years
       ago and it worked reasonably well when used. Unfortunately it
       was often ignored by refs much like a straight put-in is in
       rugby nowadays.
       #Post#: 896--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Nigel Owens column
   DIR By: guest25
       Date: July 6, 2018, 4:56 pm
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       --- Quote from: DOK link ---
       >
       > Last season I remember Roy Maybank was running the line, and I
       remember in the West Stand we were getting slightly "restive"
       over what we deemed was him just ignoring obvious off sides!
       There was a man with a hi-viz vest with "MEDIC" written on it,
       and as he passed I shouted "Oi, Medic! If you see the assistant
       referee, can you check his eyes?". Roy Maybank ran off laughing!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       DOK! You didn't? You absolute lad. You make Theresa May look
       like a vicar's daughter.
       ;-)
       #Post#: 922--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Nigel Owens column
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: July 7, 2018, 12:40 pm
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       Not sure I understand the expression, but thanks anyway.
       #Post#: 930--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Nigel Owens column
   DIR By: Mayor West
       Date: July 8, 2018, 2:01 am
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       I also think that any player who doesn't get up after a tackle
       should leave the field to be treated and not be allowed back
       until the next dead ball. Also a standard ten minutes for an HIA
       assessment for holding their head.
       It won't happen but might sort out the acting.
       I don't know why the yellow card issuing for players
       getting in the refs face isn't done. Everybody agrees that it
       would bring the power back to the ref but FIFA etc won't enforce
       it. The rugby system is constantly referred to as THE way to go.
       #Post#: 956--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Nigel Owens column
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: July 9, 2018, 4:20 am
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       --- Quote from: MrOther link ---
       >
       >
       > DOK! You didn't? You absolute lad. You make Theresa May look
       like a vicar's daughter.
       >
       > ;-)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       :D
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