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       Premiership Rugby Cup Round 4 & 5 fixtures confirmed
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: January 26, 2022, 9:21 am
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       Just announced on Premiershiprugby
  HTML https://www.premiershiprugby.com/premiership-rugby-cup/#fixtures_&_results.
       Our home game in Round 5 against Sale is on Tuesday the 29th of
       March. I may have to give that one a miss...
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       Re: Premiership Rugby Cup Round 4 & 5 fixtures confirmed
   DIR By: DazzaS
       Date: January 26, 2022, 1:48 pm
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       A Tuesday???? What????
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       Re: Premiership Rugby Cup Round 4 & 5 fixtures confirmed
   DIR By: KiltedQuin
       Date: January 26, 2022, 5:00 pm
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       The Tuesday evening fixture has been on the Quins fixture list
       for a while. I thought it was odd when updating my diary but now
       it's confirmed
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       Re: Premiership Rugby Cup Round 4 & 5 fixtures confirmed
   DIR By: finknottle
       Date: January 27, 2022, 2:37 am
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       The semifinals and final are also midweek games. Too many games
       this season and not enough weekends.
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       Re: Premiership Rugby Cup Round 4 & 5 fixtures confirmed
   DIR By: PhilQuin2
       Date: January 27, 2022, 2:48 am
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       --- Quote from: finknottle link ---
       >
       > The semifinals and final are also midweek games. Too many
       games this season and not enough weekends.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       - I completely agree. The RFU should extract its digit &
       implement more weekends in 2022 forthwith.
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       Re: Premiership Rugby Cup Round 4 & 5 fixtures confirmed
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: January 27, 2022, 3:28 am
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       Next season if the expansion to 14 teams goes ahead, I foresee
       one of two scenarios:
       1) Either the Prem Cup or A-League/Shield/whatever they're
       calling it this week will get dropped.
       Or
       2) The League is split into two conferences, similar to the Pro
       14 last season. You play home & away against all the teams in
       your conference, and home OR away against the teams in the other
       conference. One other game is a Derby game, played against a
       team in the other conference. If you played them at home in the
       "regular" fixtures, you play them away in the Derby round. That
       would total 20 games in the regular season. Playoffs would be
       between the top four in each conference. Conf A P1 plays Conf B
       P4 etc. Total of 23 weekends required. That would free up
       weekends compared to the 28 weeks currently required.
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       Re: Premiership Rugby Cup Round 4 & 5 fixtures confirmed
   DIR By: finknottle
       Date: January 27, 2022, 3:35 am
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       --- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
       >
       > Next season if the expansion to 14 teams goes ahead, I foresee
       one of two scenarios:
       >
       > 1) Either the Prem Cup or A-League/Shield/whatever they're
       calling it this week will get dropped.
       > Or
       > 2) The League is split into two conferences, similar to the
       Pro 14 last season. You play home & away against all the teams
       in your conference, and home OR away against the teams in the
       other conference. One other game is a Derby game, played against
       a team in the other conference. If you played them at home in
       the "regular" fixtures, you play them away in the Derby round.
       That would total 20 games in the regular season. Playoffs would
       be between the top four in each conference. Conf A P1 plays Conf
       B P4 etc. Total of 23 weekends required. That would free up
       weekends compared to the 28 weeks currently required.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Adding the 14th team doesn't make the league any longer than it
       is this season, it just removes the 2 rest weeks that clubs have
       this season. But having the Prem Cup in it's current format does
       seem a bit daft when they have to resort to midweek games.
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       Re: Premiership Rugby Cup Round 4 & 5 fixtures confirmed
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: January 27, 2022, 3:50 am
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       --- Quote from: finknottle link ---
       >
       > Adding the 14th team doesn't make the league any longer than
       it is this season, it just removes the 2 rest weeks that clubs
       have this season. But having the Prem Cup in it's current format
       does seem a bit daft when they have to resort to midweek games.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yeah, that's why I quoted the current 28 weeks as a comparison.
       We've also got to factor in that the current plan is for the SA
       teams taking part in the "European" cup competitions next season
       as well. That'll necessitate more changes to the format of that
       competition as well.
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       Re: Premiership Rugby Cup Round 4 & 5 fixtures confirmed
   DIR By: finknottle
       Date: January 27, 2022, 4:16 am
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       --- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
       >
       > Yeah, that's why I quoted the current 28 weeks as a
       comparison. We've also got to factor in that the current plan is
       for the SA teams taking part in the "European" cup competitions
       next season as well. That'll necessitate more changes to the
       format of that competition as well.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Good point about Europe. Wonder if they will try and go back to
       having pools of 4 teams with 6 games each?
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       Re: Premiership Rugby Cup Round 4 & 5 fixtures confirmed
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: January 27, 2022, 4:29 am
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       That'll depend a lot on whether they want to revitalise the
       third-level Shield competition for the likes of STM Enisei et
       al.
       There's 44 "top level" clubs due to play in next seasons'
       European competition. You could take the top 24 (with maybe some
       sort of geographical shenanigans in the "Celtic" league to
       ensure representation from all countries), 6 pools of 4. Pool
       winners & top 2 2nd places go into the quarters.
       That would leave 20 teams for the Challenge Cup Given you want
       this comp to take place at the same time as the Champions Cup,
       you have 5 pools of 4 and the winners & top 3 runners up going
       through to the knock-outs (I'm assuming no drop down from the
       Champions cup for the other runners up there). The problem is
       that this effectively cuts off the next level down from their
       "day in the sun" against big names unless they pull four teams
       from the lower level & make this a 24 team contest as well.
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