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       #Post#: 87897--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ibitoye to Bristol? 
   DIR By: Ignoramus
       Date: April 4, 2022, 7:09 pm
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       > He’s not big enough
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       You wouldn't let it lie.
       #Post#: 87899--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ibitoye to Bristol? 
   DIR By: Fursty
       Date: April 5, 2022, 12:24 am
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       --- Quote from: Quintron link ---
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       > He’s not big enough
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       He's not good enough
       #Post#: 87901--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ibitoye to Bristol? 
   DIR By: J Scott
       Date: April 5, 2022, 2:35 am
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       He has some amazing skills however his flaws are even greater.
       Playing against him you just need to kick to him and attack his
       wing. Yes he can step you in a phone box but I’d favour our
       wings against him.
       Hope it works for him but I would be really conferenced going to
       Bristol, and I, sure apart from the bank balance Sinks regrets
       it. Although I’d take Collier and Louw over him too.
       #Post#: 87906--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ibitoye to Bristol? 
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: April 5, 2022, 3:24 am
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       He is the rugby equivalent to Ravel Morrison in football.
       Many in his younger days said he was the most talented player
       they’ve seen in a long time, including Sir Alex rating him over
       Pogba. Sadly, he believed his own hype, and has had more clubs
       than Tiger Woods because he simply didn’t apply himself. Now,
       after years of underachieving he’s been given a chance at Derby
       and is doing well, but he certainly wasted his most important
       years and we can only be left wondering what could of been.
       In any case, unless he’s changed his attitude and also learnt
       how to defend, I’d have someone like Murley over him anyday.
       Having someone who can dance around and run fast is great, but
       if you can’t at least hold down your side of the field defending
       it’s pointless.
       #Post#: 87908--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ibitoye to Bristol? 
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: April 5, 2022, 3:53 am
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       His defence isn't great but I think people make a bit too much
       of it. Ball in hand he's clearly excellent and I think he'll do
       well at Briz. Hope so anyway.
       #Post#: 87909--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ibitoye to Bristol? 
   DIR By: TomBuckQuin
       Date: April 5, 2022, 3:59 am
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       As long as we can hold onto Cleaves, we have a like-for-like
       replacement for Ibitoye who's also:
       - Younger
       - Seems more grounded (admittedly, this is an intangible
       "feeling")
       - Seems to be up for pulling his weight as part of a team
       defensive effort & system
       - Looks as though he has just as much ability with ball in hand
       Imagine if Gabs was still around and still wasn't doing his bit
       in defence - he'd be a progress blocker to someone like Cleaves,
       who might then be more inclined to look elsewhere. Gabs moving
       on was a win for us in my book.
       Despite all that, I hope he thrives at Briz and is able to
       address the blatant weaknesses in his game - if he can, he could
       well be back in the England reckoning for the next RWC cycle. I
       hope he can - for his sake.
       #Post#: 87916--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ibitoye to Bristol? 
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: April 5, 2022, 5:19 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
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       > His defence isn't great but I think people make a bit too much
       of it. Ball in hand he's clearly excellent and I think he'll do
       well at Briz. Hope so anyway.
       >
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       Weirdly, ball in hand he could often be a liability as he kept
       losing the ball in contact or just knocking it on for no reason.
       Add in being a frequent bombscare under the high ball and
       basically there was no reliable part of his game so he was
       living off the pace and footwork alone.
       #Post#: 87920--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ibitoye to Bristol? 
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: April 5, 2022, 5:39 am
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       Yeah, I wish him well and hope it works out for him, but would
       certainly prefer our current options to start for us over him.
       I'm sure he'll score or create a few highlight reel tries, but
       probably not contribute anything like as much overall as less
       heralded players like Murley.
       Then again, maybe he just needs the right coach to get the best
       out of him
       #Post#: 87921--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ibitoye to Bristol? 
   DIR By: Quinston Churchill
       Date: April 5, 2022, 5:39 am
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       Also liked to hold the ball in one hand a lot …
       FWIW, I think he’ll do well at Bristol, but I don’t ever see him
       being more than a decent, occasionally excellent Premiership
       player.
       #Post#: 87926--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ibitoye to Bristol? 
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: April 5, 2022, 6:37 am
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       --- Quote from: T-Bone link ---
       > I'm sure he'll score or create a few highlight reel tries, but
       probably not contribute anything like as much overall as less
       heralded players like Murley.
       >
       >
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       That’s the main point for me. He seems to be almost the
       antithesis of a Moneyball player - great highlights but is he
       actually weakening the team?
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