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Re: Transfers - what do we actually need?
DIR By: Twickersman
Date: December 15, 2021, 8:59 am
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> Didn't Danny say his contract was up and he was in negotions
on the pod?
> If we are going to keep Marcus we are going to have to cut our
cloth accordingly. We couldn't afford to keep Sinks but I would
pull out all the stops to keep Marcus.
>
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Yes, Danny's contract is up. I cannot see him getting more than
1 - 2 years extra. He will be super experienced by that point.
He is no doubt a excellent athlete, but if he looses (I think he
has already lost a yard of pace) his pace, the experience should
make up for that lack of dynamism.
Accroding to reports, Smith is on 450,000 a year. If he wants to
get up with the Farrells and Super Maro's then he will need
approx 750,000 a year to 1m. That is a sizable chunk of the 5m
quid cap.
They have to start thinking about increasing the cap again. It
is going to be so hard for clubs to hang onto all there best
players.
#Post#: 79937--------------------------------------------------
Re: Transfers - what do we actually need?
DIR By: flapjack
Date: December 15, 2021, 9:09 am
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--- Quote from: Twickersman link ---
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> Yes, Danny's contract is up. I cannot see him getting more
than 1 - 2 years extra. He will be super experienced by that
point.
>
> He is no doubt a excellent athlete, but if he looses (I think
he has already lost a yard of pace) his pace, the experience
should make up for that lack of dynamism.
>
> Accroding to reports, Smith is on 450,000 a year. If he wants
to get up with the Farrells and Super Maro's then he will need
approx 750,000 a year to 1m. That is a sizable chunk of the 5m
quid cap.
>
> They have to start thinking about increasing the cap again. It
is going to be so hard for clubs to hang onto all there best
players.
>
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We could make him the marquee.
#Post#: 79943--------------------------------------------------
Re: Transfers - what do we actually need?
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: December 15, 2021, 9:26 am
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I see that the Telegraph is claiming that Genge is to leave
Tigers for Bristol. Assuming Kyle is still there too, they'll
have a very experienced front row but lose their two starting
props for quite a period of time for the International Windows.
#Post#: 79944--------------------------------------------------
Re: Transfers - what do we actually need?
DIR By: honkytonk
Date: December 15, 2021, 9:38 am
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I thought the cap change was "temporary" and open to review at
certain times (basically just to help clubs get through Covid
and the subsequent knock on effects for a few seasons)?
#Post#: 79948--------------------------------------------------
Re: Transfers - what do we actually need?
DIR By: Twickersman
Date: December 15, 2021, 10:06 am
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--- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
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> I see that the Telegraph is claiming that Genge is to leave
Tigers for Bristol. Assuming Kyle is still there too, they'll
have a very experienced front row but lose their two starting
props for quite a period of time for the International Windows.
>
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Yes, the Tigers have just announced it. He is rumored to be
going to Saracens as a replacement for Vunipola at Loose head. I
can also see him heading to Bristol. There scrum has been
rubbish this year and he is a local boy.
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Re: Transfers - what do we actually need?
DIR By: Monte
Date: December 15, 2021, 10:27 am
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Perhaps Lewis Boyce may come back to us? His contract with Bath
is up and Joe is playing internationals again? Would we want
him?
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Re: Transfers - what do we actually need?
DIR By: MadMax
Date: December 15, 2021, 11:06 am
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--- Quote from: Twickersman link ---
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>
> Yes, the Tigers have just announced it. He is rumored to be
going to Saracens as a replacement for Vunipola at Loose head. I
can also see him heading to Bristol. There scrum has been
rubbish this year and he is a local boy.
>
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Didn't he leave Bristol to get away from various "distractions"?
Maybe he feels he is better equipped to deal with them now but I
suspect he will end up a Cheater.
#Post#: 79977--------------------------------------------------
Re: Transfers - what do we actually need?
DIR By: Somardino
Date: December 15, 2021, 12:58 pm
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As others have said, given the average age and clear potential
in our squad, targeting minimum change still gives plenty of
room for the team to improve with further experience. It’s
really hard to know what to do at SH, But I’d like to See Danny
get another year. I would generally aim to keep the Backs as is.
We absolutely need someone who is going to allow Joe’s game time
to be managed, and that is clearly not SGB. I also think it’s
likely we’ll lose a TH, probably Trenier, and it could be
difficult to justify keeping Els given the level of
unavailability we’ve seen throughout his contract. Signing
someone like Lewis Boyce plus perhaps a prospect, like Tom
Osborne who played for us in the Cup, should be affordable on
balance and positive for squad depth.
Elsewhere in the forwards I don’t see any desperate need for
change. Someone like Zack Mercer could be useful, though I’d
assume we’d have to lose a first team regular to get him. It’s
very likely that we’ll be signing a Lock and a Number 8 into the
senior academy in 2022 so I expect the pipeline to remain open.
#Post#: 79983--------------------------------------------------
Re: Transfers - what do we actually need?
DIR By: Quinston Churchill
Date: December 15, 2021, 2:13 pm
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--- Quote from: Twickersman link ---
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> Marler cannot keep playing 80mins. He has been superhuman
doing what he does. We just do not have any real depth at loose
head of any quality. The coaches do not rate Garcia Botta, so
only bring him on when they think the game is won.
>
> So if we are to sign someone, then I think a quality loose
head, especially if Marler is away with England stil.
>
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Yep. This is exactly my thinking. We’re currently in a strange
situation where we have arguably the best first choice loosehead
and the worst second choice loosehead in the league.
Baxter is very promising, but has only recently shifted over to
loosehead and is only 19. I’ve said this before, but there is
such a thing as too much senior rugby too soon for young front
row players. I’m all for bringing him through but I wouldn’t
want to rely on him as second choice as soon as next season. If
you look around the league, Bevan Rodd is the only young prop
under 22 starting regularly. In terms of physical maturity.
Baxter is probably a year or two off being ready to start games.
I’d be happy to have Boyce back. He’d be a significant upgrade
on SGB and is experienced enough to help develop Baxter (and
maybe Els) but also young enough to be around for a while.
#Post#: 79984--------------------------------------------------
Re: Transfers - what do we actually need?
DIR By: Quintron
Date: December 15, 2021, 2:34 pm
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Adam Jones wants to bring Boyce back.
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