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       Re: anti vaxxers banned from stoop
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: December 17, 2021, 8:29 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > Whitty said yesterday not to interpret the data from SA in
       that way, given how many variables have changed for them. It's
       just too soon to say if Omicron is less virulent.
       >
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       As I said, there are complications and that it is too early to
       say yet; but I wonder how much of Witty’s commentary was to
       attempt to stem the growing mistrust and ambivalence in the
       Govts messaging and try to make people stay in and not “chance”
       it…
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       Re: anti vaxxers banned from stoop
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: December 17, 2021, 1:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: Bolly-Quin link ---
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       > As I said, there are complications and that it is too early to
       say yet; but I wonder how much of Witty’s commentary was to
       attempt to stem the growing mistrust and ambivalence in the
       Govts messaging and try to make people stay in and not “chance”
       it…
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Quite a lot, but he was very clear on the SA data. It's a very
       different scenario for them and we can't draw easy conclusions.
       #Post#: 80219--------------------------------------------------
       Re: anti vaxxers banned from stoop
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: December 18, 2021, 4:00 pm
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       So how did it work today at the Stoop? Were there big queues?
       Did they really check everyone for a COVID pass?
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       Re: anti vaxxers banned from stoop
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: December 18, 2021, 4:08 pm
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       They checked my NHS Covid pass visually before I entered about
       90 mins before KO. They din't scan the 2D barcode thought. All
       they did was look at the saved pass in my Google Pay "wallet". I
       guess an ingenious soul could mock one up, but do we really
       think someone would go to those levels just to attend a rugby
       game?
       #Post#: 80223--------------------------------------------------
       Re: anti vaxxers banned from stoop
   DIR By: Nico Wilson
       Date: December 18, 2021, 4:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: DOK link ---
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       > So how did it work today at the Stoop? Were there big queues?
       Did they really check everyone for a COVID pass?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The pass on my phone was carefully examined but not scanned.
       #Post#: 80225--------------------------------------------------
       Re: anti vaxxers banned from stoop
   DIR By: raedarius
       Date: December 18, 2021, 4:24 pm
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       I've been to two events where a pass is needed in the last three
       days, one at The Stoop and one at the South Bank Centre.  Both
       times, having a 2d barcode on the screen has been enough to
       satisfy security - they didn't look closely enough to see that
       it was a real pass.  Not the most robust of measures.
       #Post#: 80234--------------------------------------------------
       Re: anti vaxxers banned from stoop
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: December 19, 2021, 2:30 am
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       Also to answer DOKs other questions. They seemed to check
       everyone's pass and it was very quick. There were no queues
       #Post#: 80235--------------------------------------------------
       Re: anti vaxxers banned from stoop
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: December 19, 2021, 2:33 am
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       --- Quote from: raedarius link ---
       >
       > I've been to two events where a pass is needed in the last
       three days, one at The Stoop and one at the South Bank Centre.
       Both times, having a 2d barcode on the screen has been enough to
       satisfy security - they didn't look closely enough to see that
       it was a real pass.  Not the most robust of measures.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I went to a couple of events in October & November at the Oxford
       New Theatre, and both times they actually scanned the 2D barcode
       before allowing entry. However, they already use the same system
       for ticketing on mobiles there too, so they have the equipment &
       the expertise/practise at handling scanning codes like that. So
       it may depend on the venue.
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       Re: anti vaxxers banned from stoop
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: December 19, 2021, 6:05 am
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       I didn't realise they were doing the checks yesterday until I
       arrived. I just walked straight to the turnstile and no one
       asked me to show anything. Good job too.
       #Post#: 80256--------------------------------------------------
       Re: anti vaxxers banned from stoop
   DIR By: MadMax
       Date: December 19, 2021, 6:20 am
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       I can't speak for yesterday but I keep seeing clips on TV
       showing people holding their phones up and being waved into
       football grounds by security staff standing meters away from
       them. It all seems rather ridiculous.
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