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       #Post#: 79260--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tigers v Quins
   DIR By: tigerburnie
       Date: December 2, 2021, 4:16 pm
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       --- Quote from: Quinston Churchill link ---
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       > ‘Lol’ at what? Jammy posted facts …
       >
       > Murimuirvalu is the only specialist fullback (and only
       international) who was there at the time Steward broke through.
       Hegarty only joined Tigers this season and Porter (a centre) and
       Simmonds (a scrum half/occasional wing) aren’t exactly stellar
       competition for he 15 shirt.
       >
       > Steward is 100% there on merit and absolutely took his chance,
       but George Worth was probably never going to make it and the
       others you mentioned either weren’t there at the time or aren’t
       specialist fullbacks. Poor point, badly made IMO.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You have your opinion, it is not facts, you have no inside
       knowledge of the Tigers team or players, neither do I. Freddie
       Burns has been playing at full back for us whilst Steward was
       away with England, did a good job is he a specialist, he is if
       he does the job for us. You need to look up the definition of
       the word fact I think.
       #Post#: 79261--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tigers v Quins
   DIR By: TomBuckQuin
       Date: December 2, 2021, 4:22 pm
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       --- Quote from: tigerburnie link ---
       >
       > You have your opinion, it is not facts, you have no inside
       knowledge of the Tigers team or players, neither do I. Freddie
       Burns has been playing at full back for us whilst Steward was
       away with England, did a good job is he a specialist, he is if
       he does the job for us. You need to look up the definition of
       the word fact I think.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Completely right that Murimurivalu is the only specialist FB you
       listed though (and even he has played on the wing a fair few
       times for Tigers). Listing the likes of Porter really undermined
       your argument.
       #Post#: 79262--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tigers v Quins
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: December 2, 2021, 7:53 pm
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       We’ve been undercooked for quite a few games now so it’s hard to
       imagine anything other than a LBP. We simply are making too many
       mistakes and handling errors to compete with a rampant Tiggers
       side
       #Post#: 79263--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tigers v Quins
   DIR By: J Scott
       Date: December 3, 2021, 1:29 am
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       Yep going to be a very hard day, but really looking forward to
       my first trip to Welford Rd.
       Tigerburnie - Any top tips on food at the ground?
       #Post#: 79265--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tigers v Quins
   DIR By: TeddingtonQuin
       Date: December 3, 2021, 4:25 am
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       --- Quote from: T-Bone link ---
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       >
       > I'm not sure that calls for CSW's inclusion are justified
       after one appearance on the cup. Tizard offers plenty of bulk
       too, as does Lamb
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Our maul defence has long been a weak link for us and there is
       no doubt that Tigers will seek to exploit that weakness. When
       CSW came on against Saints, it improved dramatically so I'd like
       to see him on the bench for that alone
       #Post#: 79266--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tigers v Quins
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: December 3, 2021, 4:49 am
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       Well we'll be able to analyse more later when the teams are
       posted. If we can get our first XV out (with Lynagh, not Beard)
       then we'll have a chance of achieving something plus in the
       backs of Tigers minds they know that a 20 point halftime lead is
       not enough.
       As always, the forwards need to front up and aim for parity on
       the set piece. Danny worries me, his form isn't great and Van
       Portfleet will do to him what  Quirke did to him if he doesn't
       sharpen up. I accept Youngs may start which will even that out a
       bit.
       If they play what's in front of them, they'll get close.
       #Post#: 79275--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tigers v Quins
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: December 3, 2021, 6:08 am
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       --- Quote from: tigerburnie link ---
       >
       > You have your opinion, it is not facts, you have no inside
       knowledge of the Tigers team or players, neither do I. Freddie
       Burns has been playing at full back for us whilst Steward was
       away with England, did a good job is he a specialist, he is if
       he does the job for us. You need to look up the definition of
       the word fact I think.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Burns is a career fly half / perennial bench-warmer getting
       games at 15 while Steward  is unavailable, which tells you all
       you need to know about the competition for 15 at Tigers (not a
       criticism, by the way: for a long time we had no good
       alternative to Mike Brown). If we're looking up definition of
       words, do you want to take a quick look at "specialist"? It's
       not "well, he's doing a job for us".
       #Post#: 79297--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tigers v Quins
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: December 3, 2021, 7:37 am
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
       > ...in the backs of Tigers minds they know that a 20 point
       halftime lead is not enough.
       --- End Quote ---
       Didnt work with LI or Sarries recently - shut down our midfield
       and stop the offloads and force us wide too soon...
       Hopefully, the "Restoration of the Magi" - aka
       Donbrandt-Care-Smith-Esther - will break the seal and we can
       force a result; I don't think Quins work on the "it will be
       alright in the end" scenario - they have excelled here, but its
       not the plan - I hope!
       #Post#: 79302--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tigers v Quins
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: December 3, 2021, 9:57 am
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       --- Quote from: Bolly-Quin link ---
       >
       > Didnt work with LI or Sarries recently - shut down our
       midfield and stop the offloads and force us wide too soon...
       >
       > Hopefully, the "Restoration of the Magi" - aka
       Donbrandt-Care-Smith-Esther - will break the seal and we can
       force a result; I don't think Quins work on the "it will be
       alright in the end" scenario - they have excelled here, but its
       not the plan - I hope!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       "Shut down the midfield" worked for Sale - I think for Sarries
       and LI it was more "get Allan off the pitch"
       #Post#: 79303--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tigers v Quins
   DIR By: TomBuckQuin
       Date: December 3, 2021, 10:22 am
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       I actually think Tempest will be the key man for this one. He's
       one of those refs who, once he makes a couple of early decisions
       against a particular side, doesn't tend to flip the other way.
       If we can get some early dominance at set piece and the
       breakdown, he might finally be our best friend. Orrr he'll
       continue to ping us incessantly as he has done in the past. We
       need to get on his good side for this one - if Tigers get any
       early rumbles on, Welford Rd will carry Tempest off into the
       night.
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