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       #Post#: 78551--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: Treecko
       Date: November 18, 2021, 1:52 pm
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       > Ewels on the other hand...
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       Ewels is one of those players who does a lot of the unseen work,
       so clearing out rucks and making tight carries and tackles. He's
       also there since England has a shortage of tighthead locks, with
       Kruis and Launchbury not being available, and I'd say that him
       and Hill are probably the only other two that are international
       standard.
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       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: Saintquin
       Date: November 18, 2021, 2:11 pm
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       > But with a load of blokes he’s played with all season. How
       many games have Marler and Blamire packed down together?
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       > I’d’ve been very tempted to start Joe but I can see why Eddie
       didn’t.
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       I get your point on them not played together but, my point was
       more about Marler's fitness after missing training.
       #Post#: 78555--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: November 18, 2021, 2:53 pm
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       > I get your point on them not played together but, my point was
       more about Marler's fitness after missing training.
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       But his fitness isn't really the problem - it's that he hasn't
       trained with his new hooker for 9 days and hasn't been part of
       the "how we are going to beat the SA team" discussions and
       practise.
       Having said that, I think he'll be on before half time...
       #Post#: 78557--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: November 18, 2021, 4:35 pm
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       --- Quote from: Treecko link ---
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       > Ewels is one of those players who does a lot of the unseen
       work, so clearing out rucks and making tight carries and
       tackles. He's also there since England has a shortage of
       tighthead locks, with Kruis and Launchbury not being available,
       and I'd say that him and Hill are probably the only other two
       that are international standard.
       >
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       There's the type of unseen work that Richard Hill and robshaw
       did - positive impact. Then there's work being unseen because
       the player's just not that good or effective
       #Post#: 78558--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: November 18, 2021, 4:54 pm
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       --- Quote from: Treecko link ---
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       > ... one of those players who does a lot of the unseen work ...
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       I made a successful career out that!
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       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 18, 2021, 5:39 pm
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       --- Quote from: Treecko link ---
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       > Ewels is one of those players who does a lot of the unseen
       work, so clearing out rucks and making tight carries and
       tackles. He's also there since England has a shortage of
       tighthead locks, with Kruis and Launchbury not being available,
       and I'd say that him and Hill are probably the only other two
       that are international standard.
       >
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       He's really not a good carrier or tackler, though. "Unseen work"
       tends to be alongside seen work!
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       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: MadMax
       Date: November 19, 2021, 6:35 am
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       --- Quote from: T-Bone link ---
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       > There's the type of unseen work that Richard Hill and robshaw
       did - positive impact. Then there's work being unseen because
       the player's just not that good or effective or plays for your
       team!
       >
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       Just enhanced that for you T-Bone!
       #Post#: 78580--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: TomBuckQuin
       Date: November 19, 2021, 7:10 am
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       Couple of articles about Marchant's selection here (behind
       paywalls so hopefully someone can help me out with that...)
       1.
  HTML https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2021/11/18/eddie-jones-team-selection-shows-england-will-play-south-africa/
       2.
  HTML https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/why-picking-joe-marchant-on-the-wing-against-south-africa-may-be-a-masterstroke-n6lwc2wbj
       I'm just really chuffed for him. The question is how he's going
       to get a decent run as a starter in this England squad. I really
       feel there's nothing between him and Slade - they're the top two
       13s in the Prem by a distance in my mind, but March has always
       been a little bit underrated. The arguments for Slade would
       probably be his kicking game and distribution, but March is a
       very capable distributor himself and (I'd argue) has the edge
       defensively. Both are excellent attackers in quite different
       ways.
       If he does somehow find a way into the 13 shirt in the near
       future, I do think March is a more natural side dish to Manu -
       he's so used to tracking Andre's busts and breaking weak inside
       shoulders when receiving the inevitable offload and the same
       system could easily fall into place for England in the run up to
       the RWC with Marcus installed at 10 now... if Eddie was minded
       to sidetrack Golden Boy Faz for anything other than injury (let
       a boy dream).
       I hope we get to see at least 20 mins of March shifting inside
       to 13 tomorrow - could even prove to be a much-needed
       gamebreaker. Either way, we all know he'll leave nothing out
       there and I hope he gets some kind of chance to show what he can
       do with ball in hand.
       #Post#: 78581--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: November 19, 2021, 7:32 am
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       I think this is where March's time in NZ will have helped his
       career, even though it was limited due to the pandemic. He
       played mainly on the wing there, so he has experience at a very
       high level of wing play, so he's a useful option when building a
       matchday 23.
       #Post#: 78586--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: Teddington Taff
       Date: November 19, 2021, 10:00 am
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       I feel a bit like the posts that reads - CHIEF'S FAN IN
       PEACE.....   Not really allowed to comment on England as a Welsh
       supporter.  But there you go and here I go.  When England are in
       the ascendancy the other Northern hemisphere Nations benefit as
       it collectively raises the bar. Unfortunately - and I declare
       myself as NOT and Eddie Jones fan - England despite some
       wonderful players have fallen short over the past few years.
       Flashes of brilliance but long boring and dull periods of
       predictable rugby.  Until EJ has the courage to play exciting
       breakthrough players in a meaningful way it will remain boring
       rugby.  I want England to beat SA in an eciting and fast flowing
       game. No penalty kicks for the post only to the corner with
       courage and conviction.  COME ON YOU NORTHERN HEMISPHERE
       NATIONS.
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