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   DIR By: catweazle
       Date: November 18, 2021, 7:37 am
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       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: TeddingtonQuin
       Date: November 18, 2021, 7:43 am
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       That's a bit more like it though the 2 best 8s in the
       Premiership are both still on the bench. I'd have:
       4. Maro Itoje (Saracens, 50 caps)
       5. Courtney Lawes (C) (Northampton Saints, 89 caps)
       6. Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 35 caps)
       7. Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby, 26 caps)
       8. Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins, 3 caps)
       With Underhill off the bench after 60 minutes to run tired Bok
       legs into the ground
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       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: Archquin
       Date: November 18, 2021, 7:55 am
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       would have Raffi at 9 also
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       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: TeddingtonQuin
       Date: November 18, 2021, 7:59 am
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       > would have Raffi at 9 also
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       Yes, definitely. Quick ball will be a huge asset against SA
       #Post#: 78516--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: November 18, 2021, 8:10 am
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       Got a feeling we are going to be outmuscled and schooled in the
       pack. Without a powerful ball carrier in Dombrandt or Simmonds I
       think Curry will be made to look average.
       Backs not too bad but would of preferred Quirke and Radwan if
       fit to start, as i would rather have quick elusive runners than
       trying to out armwrestle them
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       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: November 18, 2021, 8:50 am
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       --- Quote from: TeddingtonQuin link ---
       >
       > That's a bit more like it though the 2 best 8s in the
       Premiership are both still on the bench. I'd have:
       > 4. Maro Itoje (Saracens, 50 caps)
       > 5. Courtney Lawes (C) (Northampton Saints, 89 caps)
       > 6. Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 35 caps)
       > 7. Sam Underhill(Bath Rugby, 26 caps)
       > 8. Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins, 3 caps)
       >
       > With Underhill off the bench after 60 minutes to run tired Bok
       legs into the ground
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       --- End Quote ---
       Still also think that Lawes and Maro are both 4s. Need a 5 in
       there to give bulk both sides of the ball
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       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 18, 2021, 9:20 am
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       Honestly I'm beginning to see Lawes as a real 6. Underhill's not
       in good form and missed hatfuls of tackles against the Aussies.
       Lawes/Curry/Dombrandt gives you a great mix and a plethora of
       lineout options to boot, plus it allows us to pick the
       neanderthal power of Hill in the second row.
       Joe's going to have a tough time against Mapimpi, but he's an
       excellent defender so fingers crossed - and I really hope we get
       to see what he can do with ball in hand.
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       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: Wildman
       Date: November 18, 2021, 9:27 am
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       I agree with you Jammy - I think that is a well balanced back
       row. Power, line-out options, jackling and ball-handling all
       covered off.
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       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: TomBuckQuin
       Date: November 18, 2021, 10:40 am
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       --- Quote from: Yareet link ---
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       > Still also think that Lawes and Maro are both 4s. Need a 5 in
       there to give bulk both sides of the ball
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       ...but Jonny Hill is not that man.
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       Re: England v SA
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: November 18, 2021, 10:43 am
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       --- Quote from: TomBuckQuin link ---
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       > ...but Jonny Hill is not that man.
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       You’ll get no arguments from me on that. Still not sure how he’s
       a Lion.
       Likewise, I don’t feel Ewels has done enough to justify 23
       😳 caps. However, I’m also not sure what other English 5s
       there are. Said before that we need Launchbury and Kruis back
       asap.
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