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       Jamie Roberts - Quins vs Wales!
   DIR By: Twickersman
       Date: November 9, 2021, 4:19 pm
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       Roberts had to choose between Quins and Wales. He is not happy
       with the Quins board. Seems like he was treated pretty badly.
       It's a shame we never really saw the best of him.
       He was a world class Inside center in his pomp.
       #Post#: 77938--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jamie Roberts - Quins vs Wales!
   DIR By: Whitton Quin
       Date: November 9, 2021, 4:38 pm
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       I am sure there are 2 sides to the story, but not a comfortable
       read from a Quins point of view.
       #Post#: 77942--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jamie Roberts - Quins vs Wales!
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: November 9, 2021, 5:30 pm
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       I don’t doubt Quins gave him a rough time about this and accept
       it probably wasn’t handled brilliantly.  However his case would
       be stronger if he’d ever given the appearance that he gave a
       toss about Quins from the moment he arrived (prioritising his
       studies over us for some months).  I remember a player that
       played well within himself apart from the odd televised game and
       did not endear himself to Bath fans I know when he moved there
       either.  Maybe the problem isn’t just the clubs Jamie?
       #Post#: 77946--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jamie Roberts - Quins vs Wales!
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: November 9, 2021, 6:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: Jamie Roberts link ---
       > For 10 years, I’ve been a gladiator...
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't wish to cast any daffodils, but Maximus Decimus Meridius
       wouldn't have been whining in a book, however poorly he had been
       treated by men in togas...
       But it does set the opening scene for the Brown debacle (albeit
       with a different cast)...
       #Post#: 77948--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jamie Roberts - Quins vs Wales!
   DIR By: Nico Wilson
       Date: November 9, 2021, 10:59 pm
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       We need to wait for JK and Dave Ellis to each write their
       memoirs
       #Post#: 77949--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jamie Roberts - Quins vs Wales!
   DIR By: Quintessentially Quins
       Date: November 9, 2021, 11:39 pm
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       Having read that it seems to me that Jamie knew exactly what the
       situation was and how although we may have indeed had him over a
       barrel, PRL also had us over a barrel. If we where really
       willing to there and then buy out his contract then I don't
       really see the issue other than the fact that maybe we should
       have explained it better to him.
       Don't get me wrong I am not saying that he shouldn't be upset or
       that we treated him well, however as with all things in life
       circumstances change and at the time of us agreeing to this side
       letter we might have anticipated that PRL would only give a £60k
       fine ala North. However if we where then told actually you will
       be docked points for every player that plays outside the
       international window, then I can certainly understand our change
       of heart although I am sure it is difficult for Jamie.
       At the end of the day we gave him a way out and he made his
       decision, as he said Parkes ended up playing very well and by
       rights if Davies had been fit he would not have been in the
       squad in the first place. So as much as he can get angry and
       blame Quins for the end of his international career the truth is
       that Wales where already pushing him out the door.
       #Post#: 77951--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jamie Roberts - Quins vs Wales!
   DIR By: QuincyJones
       Date: November 10, 2021, 12:39 am
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       Can't say I ever liked the bloke and don't feel like he gave his
       all for us. The clue is in the line where he says that Wales has
       always been his top priority. There's your problem - your club,
       whoever it is, should be your top priority and then
       international honours follow. You don't just use your club as a
       vehicle. Another clue when he says "they were mid table at the
       time" rather than "we were mid table".
       I walked past Jamie and Tim Visser one afternoon outside the
       Stoop, several hours before a home match - neither were deep in
       conversation so as I continued walking past I said "good luck
       for tonight lads". Tim Visser looked up at me, smiled and said
       "thanks mate!" and while JR definitely heard me, he just ignored
       me completely and looked the other way. I remember thinking at
       the time how unnecessarily rude - even a passing glance would
       have been polite enough.
       I also love the way he thinks his form had nothing to do with
       the end of his Wales career. He was past it by then and had no
       chance of adding further caps to his tally. Also, having read
       Gatland's book I remember him saying he only ever had suspicions
       throughout his time with Wales that one player had been on the
       gear... and you only have to look at the size of JR's head
       compared with earlier in his career to come up with the
       conclusion he's probably used HGH at some point. (My opinion,
       not fact).
       Anyway, personally I'm glad we didn't offer him a new deal.
       #Post#: 77953--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jamie Roberts - Quins vs Wales!
   DIR By: J Scott
       Date: November 10, 2021, 1:23 am
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       Well he also forgets we got the better end of the deal in
       getting Taps. Roberts was never good for us and one of the major
       let downs.
       So I just think I’ll avoid his book and move.
       #Post#: 77954--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jamie Roberts - Quins vs Wales!
   DIR By: TeddingtonQuin
       Date: November 10, 2021, 2:03 am
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       Utter tosh! He never gave his all for Quins so why he expected
       to be treated differently to anyone else I can't fathom. I was
       very pleased to see the back of the leeching bar steward!
       #Post#: 77956--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jamie Roberts - Quins vs Wales!
   DIR By: honkytonk
       Date: November 10, 2021, 2:42 am
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       Two sides to every story. I always got the impression that Quins
       were more just a convenient base for Roberts to play at, rather
       than him really wanting to be here.  Very underwhelmed with him,
       especially when you look at the way Andre goes about his
       business
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