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Re: Captain Care
DIR By: baggie
Date: November 1, 2021, 4:36 am
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> Be AMAZED if Lewies had much sway on on-pitch decisions when
he came on...surely Captaincy doesn't work like this???
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I had always thought that in those situations the club captain
would “take over the armband” as soon as he came onto the pitch
… having watched the game again on BT when I got got home you
can see that around 62:00 Edwards was poised to kick for the
corner before Lewies intervened
Quins success in 2021 has come from “ high risk / high reward”
rugby … this decision yesterday was reverting to pragmatic rugby
… and it didn’t pay off … there was a 6-point turnaround in a
couple of minutes which swung the game in Saracens favour
It unnecessarily exposed an inexperienced 3rd choice fly-half to
a high pressure situation which may damage his confidence going
forward … we will almost certainly need him to start against
Wasps as Tommy Allan is unlikely to be cleared to play having
suffered 2 concussions already this season
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Re: Captain Care
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: November 1, 2021, 4:41 am
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--- Quote from: Harleys Evil Step Mum link ---
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> Be AMAZED if Lewies had much sway on on-pitch decisions when
he came on...surely Captaincy doesn't work like this???
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Actually, contrary to my post above, I just looked at the
recording and it appears to be Care who made the decision.
Lewies was there but he seems to talk to Care afterwards. Maybe
he disagreed - who knows.
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Re: Captain Care
DIR By: baggie
Date: November 1, 2021, 4:49 am
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--- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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> Actually, contrary to my post above, I just looked at the
recording and it appears to be Care who made the decision.
Lewies was there but he seems to talk to Care afterwards. Maybe
he disagreed - who knows.
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I think you’ve got this the wrong way round … Edwards is poised
to kick for the corner and Lewies steps forward to tell the ref
“we’ll go for the posts”
#Post#: 77221--------------------------------------------------
Re: Captain Care
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: November 1, 2021, 5:09 am
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--- Quote from: baggie link ---
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> I think you’ve got this the wrong way round … Edwards is
poised to kick for the corner and Lewies steps forward to tell
the ref “we’ll go for the posts”
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I thought that at the time and that's what the commentary team
said but Care approaches Edwards first while he's preparing to
kick for the corner.
#Post#: 77233--------------------------------------------------
Re: Captain Care
DIR By: baggie
Date: November 1, 2021, 6:32 am
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--- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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> I thought that at the time and that's what the commentary team
said but Care approaches Edwards first while he's preparing to
kick for the corner.
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I think you’ll find after Care has opted to kick to the corner
Care then steps forwards to tell Edwards that Lewies has changed
the decision … Lewies then informs the ref
My information is based on pitch-side conversations with certain
players after the game
#Post#: 77234--------------------------------------------------
Re: Captain Care
DIR By: A222Quin
Date: November 1, 2021, 6:35 am
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The drop goal was a weird one. We had a penalty advantage,
they'd most likely have been on a yellow for the next
infringement so it felt like it was time to turn the screw a
bit.
#Post#: 77238--------------------------------------------------
Re: Captain Care
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: November 1, 2021, 7:02 am
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--- Quote from: baggie link ---
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> I think you’ll find after Care has opted to kick to the corner
Care then steps forwards to tell Edwards that Lewies has changed
the decision … Lewies then informs the ref
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> My information is based on pitch-side conversations with
certain players after the game
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Fair enough. Obviously I did not have that extra information
available. 😁
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Re: Captain Care
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: November 1, 2021, 7:14 am
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--- Quote from: A222Quin link ---
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> The drop goal was a weird one. We had a penalty advantage,
they'd most likely have been on a yellow for the next
infringement so it felt like it was time to turn the screw a
bit.
>
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Ref hadn't warned them at all, so we had to weigh up the
likelihood of scoring after a few failures vs feeding Saracens
more belief with yet another good defensive set.
#Post#: 77245--------------------------------------------------
Re: Captain Care
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: November 1, 2021, 7:27 am
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A massive part of our success over the past 6 months or so has
been in moving away from pragmatism. In my opinion yesterday was
a good example of why we shouldn't revert.
#Post#: 77246--------------------------------------------------
Re: Captain Care
DIR By: sussexquin
Date: November 1, 2021, 7:33 am
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--- Quote from: A222Quin link ---
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> The drop goal was a weird one. We had a penalty advantage,
they'd most likely have been on a yellow for the next
infringement so it felt like it was time to turn the screw a
bit.
>
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Just watching the game again now at DC's drop, looks like a
kick-pass to Tyrone on the wing would have been a walk in. Would
have also kept penalty advantage if he did not score a try.
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