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       #Post#: 77160--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy Allen
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: October 31, 2021, 2:07 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > Whiplash effect. He looked very groggy at the time, did
       several uncharacteristic things after, and a few times was shown
       blinking and rubbing his eyes. You don't need to have head
       contact to suffer a brain injury (indeed, it's one of the big
       problems facing the sport if the recent studies bear out)
       >
       > Edit: also on replay it's very late and a shoulder/elbow, no
       wrap at all. I think if it had happened at any other time than
       the start, it's a yellow as minimum
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Absolutely. It's the brain banging around in your skull that's
       the problem.
       #Post#: 77162--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy Allen
   DIR By: Monte
       Date: October 31, 2021, 2:11 pm
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       To my mind done deliberately to intimidate him at best. He tried
       to stick it out but clearly was not right.
       #Post#: 77168--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy Allen
   DIR By: KentQuin
       Date: October 31, 2021, 2:25 pm
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       Thanks for clarifying. Not sure if I'd missed a later/second
       incident, given the time which passed between the Koch tackle
       and Allan being subbed.
       Agree Monte. A classic "I'm going to smash their ten, come what
       may" type of challenge. I was a little surprised it wasn't a
       yellow. To my mind he didn't have to make the tackle...
       #Post#: 77173--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy Allen
   DIR By: championes
       Date: October 31, 2021, 2:41 pm
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       Yeah he never looked right after that early knock - was looking
       uncertain and making odd decisions, he looked to be trying to
       shake his head back into shape (if you see what I mean) at one
       point.
       Worry that we won’t see him for a big amount of time after
       today.
       #Post#: 77175--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy Allen
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: October 31, 2021, 2:44 pm
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       It’s a yellow if it happens a couple of minutes later. Late and
       absolutely no need for the hit.
       #Post#: 77187--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy Allen
   DIR By: Seequin
       Date: October 31, 2021, 3:34 pm
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       It was late, high reckless and dangerous. It makes a mockery of
       rugby’s intention to protect players. It was a cheap shot which
       had a big impact on the game. Very disappointing by the
       officials.
       #Post#: 77188--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy Allen
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: October 31, 2021, 3:50 pm
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       At the game someone said the TMO asked for it to be looked at at
       CMK said it was fine
       Don’t know if that true
       But either way I’ll be surprised if the citing officer isn’t
       reviewing a few incidents
       #Post#: 77190--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy Allen
   DIR By: Adrian
       Date: October 31, 2021, 4:04 pm
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       --- Quote from: SiB link ---
       >
       > At the game someone said the TMO asked for it to be looked at
       at CMK said it was fine
       > Don’t know if that true
       >
       > But either way I’ll be surprised if the citing officer isn’t
       reviewing a few incidents
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       My recollection fro ref link was the TMO said it didn't need
       looking at further, late no arms but no contact with the head.
       #Post#: 77191--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy Allen
   DIR By: quins4life
       Date: October 31, 2021, 4:11 pm
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       Also just listening to the clip of Dino Lamb’s yellow card, CMKs
       wasn’t wanting to give a yellow and got talked into it by the
       over zealous TMO.
       It’s amazing that Sarries got away with the cheap shot/assault
       on Allen. Everyone is going on about keeping players safe and
       then they let things like that go. I don’t get it.
       It’s also funny how they were continuously allowed to infringe
       in that 3rd quarter without a warning. They were  always
       offside, whether that be when we were attacking or not
       retreating  from all of theirs kicks. It is not always on the
       man in the middle, the ARs were non existent so what’s the point
       of them.
       Incredibly proud of our young team coming up against the cheats.
       We didn’t look overpowered which was all of our fear pregame so
       kudos for stepping up
       #Post#: 77194--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy Allen
   DIR By: RocQuin
       Date: October 31, 2021, 4:44 pm
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       Seemed to me that Sarries were aware of our lack of backup at
       10, and targeted Tommy from the whistle. I don’t have a problem
       with that approach, but to target a player to the extent that he
       needs to leave the field injured is unacceptable. I hope the
       citing officer agrees with me.
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