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       #Post#: 6500--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balls on Bags
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: September 19, 2018, 2:01 am
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       --- Quote from: Quaking Quin link ---
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       > I wish Gustard every success. 'Balls on bags' was his highly
       publicised coaching innovation but balls are now needed from him
       to get results in any way he can.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That's stretching it a bit. He used the phrase in training with
       the team which was captured on video & posted on YouTube. Even
       then, he was describing to a specific player how he wanted said
       player to change his stance during a ruck. Neither he nor any
       member of the team or wider coaching staff have come out & said
       something like "this is our new style. You've heard of the
       Wolfpack? This is Balls on the Bag!".
       #Post#: 6503--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balls on Bags
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: September 19, 2018, 3:06 am
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       --- Quote from: Quaking Quin link ---
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       > The point of my post was to look at the results from a
       statistic perspective.
       >
       > I wish Gustard every success. 'Balls on bags' was his highly
       publicised coaching innovation but balls are now needed from him
       to get results in any way he can.
       >
       > Unfortunately for Gustard he starts from a low base and time
       is not on his side. He does not have a season or two to find a
       successful formula - good results must come quickly.
       >
       > If Quins are to finish in the top six they need to win 9 out
       11 home games and must start winning away games against teams
       that finished last season in the 6 to 11 positions.
       >
       > Sale was a good start but loses to Saints and Bath do not bode
       well.
       >
       > While Blucherquin may think it 'silly' to interpret a loss to
       Brizz early in the season as making Quins relegation fodder -
       regrettably it does. Perhaps he, or anyone else, can suggest
       where the away wins will come from if Quins cannot win away
       against the promoted team or Northampton?
       >
       > Having now lost to Bath at home it also means Quins must find
       a replacement home win against Sarries or Exeter to make up lost
       ground.
       >
       > As I said objectively back in August, we will have a very good
       idea of Quins fate this season by the end of October given the
       way the fixture list falls.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I really don't think balls on bags is a coaching innovation,
       it's just something he said in a training video when telling
       someone to have a low body position.
       Top 6 is fantasy land given the work needed to repair a club in
       total chaos. Our aim this season should be avoiding relegation
       and not being a team full of quitters who don't trust each other
       - and to show signs of a rebuilding process. If you're trying to
       measure progress on if we're likely to make top 6 I just think
       you're not acknowledging how badly broken Quins were last year.
       And I said it's silly because it's a long season, we've only won
       away three times in two years and haven't been relegated in
       either of them - and because we've only just started the process
       of creating a new side, which by January may well be operating
       better than it is now.
       Not relegated and not terrible should be our aim this year - and
       so far I think there have been indications that the rebuilding
       process has begun.
       #Post#: 6504--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balls on Bags
   DIR By: nowexnavyquin
       Date: September 19, 2018, 3:09 am
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       I would like to see Visser given the nod over Walker, apart from
       that Marler if fit would got straight back to the starting team
       with Lang at 10.
       #Post#: 6509--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balls on Bags
   DIR By: Quins Head
       Date: September 19, 2018, 3:38 am
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       Ibatoye has been outshining Visser in the A league in my view so
       deserves a chance oh as has Chisholm
       #Post#: 6518--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balls on Bags
   DIR By: Chipstead Quin
       Date: September 19, 2018, 4:45 am
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       LOL Blucherquin - you've nailed our mantra for this year  ' not
       relegated and not terrible is our aim  - I know what you mean
       and I agree with you , we should get them to put it across that
       big flag they unfurl before games !
       #Post#: 6522--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balls on Bags
   DIR By: Marler
       Date: September 19, 2018, 5:01 am
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       I expect to see a few changes for the Bristol game. Marler in
       for Lambert, Lang for Smith, Ibitoye for Walker and possibly
       Bothma for Wallace. Should Brown be available, he'll get the nod
       over Ibitoye. We'll need to be a lot more physical early on if
       we want to come away with a win.
       #Post#: 6524--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balls on Bags
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: September 19, 2018, 5:17 am
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       --- Quote from: Marler link ---
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       > I expect to see a few changes for the Bristol game. Marler in
       for Lambert, Lang for Smith, Ibitoye for Walker and possibly
       Bothma for Wallace. Should Brown be available, he'll get the nod
       over Ibitoye. We'll need to be a lot more physical early on if
       we want to come away with a win.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not sure a back row of Bothma, Robshaw & Chisholm offers
       enough variation in terms of carrying, breakdown skills, etc.
       Chis & Smash are too similar to play alongside each other
       without a more specialised 7, I'd suggest.
       #Post#: 6525--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balls on Bags
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: September 19, 2018, 5:19 am
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       --- Quote from: Chipstead Quin link ---
       >
       > LOL Blucherquin - you've nailed our mantra for this year  '
       not relegated and not terrible is our aim  - I know what you
       mean and I agree with you , we should get them to put it across
       that big flag they unfurl before games !
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       As as a slogan I think it's terribly English and sets our sights
       exactly where they should be this year.
       Maybe that should be the tattoo for the person on the other
       thread.
       Like "Earth: Mostly harmless"
       #Post#: 6593--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balls on Bags
   DIR By: Quaking Quin
       Date: September 19, 2018, 5:00 pm
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       I can't believe Gustard got the HoR job by saying to the board
       his aim was to avoid relegation and for team not to play
       terribly.
       A minimum objective each season for any head coach has to be a
       top six finish - unless you are in charge of the newly promoted
       team.
       John Kingston said on his departure that he left the club with
       its best ever squad. It is certainly stuffed full of
       internationals and there is no reason why the form they
       sporadically show in games cannot be more consistently applied
       to give a top six finish.
       As I said before, we should have a good idea of the season to
       come by the end of October.
       Coaches like to break the season down into sets of five or six
       games with an associated series of targets. Losing to Bristol
       and/or Wuzz would be a mini disaster and require a serious
       change of plans by the coaching team.
       May the force be with our rookie HoR.
       #Post#: 6595--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balls on Bags
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: September 19, 2018, 5:49 pm
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       Do you mean Glos, who we play away on the 29th? If we lose both
       things will be looking grim.
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