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Re: This Is Not Soccer
DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
Date: September 16, 2018, 12:53 am
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--- Quote from: J Scott link ---
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> Can’t stand this high and mighty bullshit. I am south stand
ST holder and a rugby man through and through if you just want
to nod and clap go watch cricket. I’ve seen us go down ii’ve
seen us lift trophies in fact I’ve been watching some 30 years
rugb is becoming more than a turn up and watch its inclusive the
fans and players as one.
>
> Don’t like it move on.
>
> I’ll be there for next home game hope you are too and maybe
you can look down you nose at me if you’re tall enough.
>
--- End Quote ---
Agreed. I was booing and jeering our useless players for the
first 70 minutes as I'm a rugby chap and have been going to The
Stoop for many years.
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Re: This Is Not Soccer
DIR By: Cookie
Date: September 16, 2018, 1:00 am
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A few things in play here for what is proving to be an
interesting debate. And, J Scott, if you want to discuss it with
me, no need to wait until the next home game - I'll be at
Bristol next week and Gloucester the week after.
As for the try, I don't know what the law is that everyone
thinks they know, but as Ben Kay said in commentary, surely if
Aled Brew is in front of Earle, he can run whichever support
line he likes? I think (don't know) that possession of the ball
is important here as he is running in support rather than
running to try and gain possession.
But the thing that narked me is that achieving what the fans did
meant that some felt vindicated for their constant and vitriolic
criticism of the ref and felt it gave them validation to get
even worse. As I've said, I didn't think he was bad, but I did
suggest to the guy close to me that we weren't losing 35-15
because of him.
It's actually worth nothing that we got more penalties in our
favour than Bath. And a yellow card for Rokoduguni.
And we all seem to be skipping over the abuse of the away fans,
which was pretty appalling.
#Post#: 6177--------------------------------------------------
Re: This Is Not Soccer
DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
Date: September 16, 2018, 1:09 am
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I didn't notice any abuse of the away fans, but I don;t think
you can expect boring fans showing bad sportsmanship to
acknowledge that they are boring fans who show bad
sportsmanship.
#Post#: 6181--------------------------------------------------
Re: This Is Not Soccer
DIR By: GillQuin
Date: September 16, 2018, 2:21 am
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Genuine question here. Not a comment on anyone's post! What is
the law on obstruction? From my viewpoint (South Stand, sorry)
Brew was definitely changing his running line to stop Earle not
simply running a support line.
#Post#: 6183--------------------------------------------------
Re: This Is Not Soccer
DIR By: nowexnavyquin
Date: September 16, 2018, 2:22 am
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Which stand was the abuse taking place in? Didn't see or hear
anything like that in the DHL.
#Post#: 6184--------------------------------------------------
Re: This Is Not Soccer
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: September 16, 2018, 2:22 am
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What abuse of away fans? Where do you sit?
Wherever it is you seem to see a totally different match to me.
#Post#: 6186--------------------------------------------------
Re: This Is Not Soccer
DIR By: nowexnavyquin
Date: September 16, 2018, 2:25 am
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--- Quote from: GillQuin link ---
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> Genuine question here. Not a comment on anyone's post! What is
the law on obstruction? From my viewpoint (South Stand, sorry)
Brew was definitely changing his running line to stop Earle not
simply running a support line.
>
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://laws.worldrugby.org/?law=9
9.3
#Post#: 6187--------------------------------------------------
Re: This Is Not Soccer
DIR By: DazzaS
Date: September 16, 2018, 2:28 am
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Lighten up a bit. Rugby is no longer the private reserve of the
private boarding school educated oxbridge graduate of the elite
who have double barrel surnames and posh first names of Tarquin,
Percy and Alfred who just clap politely and say phrases such as
"bang on, jolly good show". It is open to the masses and rabble
of council born degenerates such as myself.
If we see injustice we will voice it, that "try" was directly in
front of me. He was not running a supporting line but a blocking
line and looked over his shoulder to make sure our defensive
player did not have an opportunity to try to stop the try and he
physically touched him to keep him at bay. It was that which was
judged illegal. It did not have a final bearing of the result
but it galvanised the players to push for 2 extra tries and
obtain the bonus points which probably would not happen if the
TMO did not convince the referee to check.
Now as a voice for the south stand, I do not agree of the abuse
of players, coaches, opposing supporters or making as much noise
as possible to put off a kicker. I also do not like the current
attitude of people in other stands looking their nose down on us
South stand supporters either. We are all Quins through and
through and will support the team vocally.
Now I'm off to the pits to dig out coal.
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Re: This Is Not Soccer
DIR By: Blucherquin
Date: September 16, 2018, 2:39 am
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I’d rather sit next to fans in the south stand than have people
behind me like yesterday. Nothing wrong with them as people but
they sat down saying “yes they are our company’s seats” and
chatted throughout the game. It was like being trapped in Made
in Chelsea with no off button.
Love my posh seat (being relatively posh), but I’d rather
everyone around me was there because they were interested in the
match.
#Post#: 6190--------------------------------------------------
Re: This Is Not Soccer
DIR By:
Date: September 16, 2018, 2:40 am
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--- Quote from: DazzaS link ---
>
> Lighten up a bit. Rugby is no longer the private reserve of
the private boarding school educated oxbridge graduate of the
elite who have double barrel surnames and posh first names of
Tarquin, Percy and Alfred who just clap politely and say phrases
such as "bang on, jolly good show". It is open to the masses and
rabble of council born degenerates such as myself.
>
> If we see injustice we will voice it, that "try" was directly
in front of me. He was not running a supporting line but a
blocking line and looked over his shoulder to make sure our
defensive player did not have an opportunity to try to stop the
try and he physically touched him to keep him at bay. It was
that which was judged illegal. It did not have a final bearing
of the result but it galvanised the players to push for 2 extra
tries and obtain the bonus points which probably would not
happen if the TMO did not convince the referee to check.
>
> Now as a voice for the south stand. I do not agree of the
abuse of players, coaches or making as much noise as possible to
put off a kicker. I also do not like the current attitude of
people in other stands looking their nose down on us South stand
supporters either. We are Quins through and through and will
support the team vocally.
>
> Now I'm off to the pits to dig out coal.
>
--- End Quote ---
Quite right, I’m relatively new to the forum by a few months but
have been watching Quins at The Stoop for a while, and I have to
say I don’t get why some people seem to be throwing handbags
regarding what seems to be one stand vs the other nonsense blame
game. Nothing comes from entirely one stand, and further more
the stands are so big it’s impossible for one to say nothing
came from their stand. We are Harlequins supporters as a whole
who shouldn’t be divided by stands vs stands nonsense blame
games.
And please don’t get me wrong, I totally agree with not wanting
Rugby to evolve into Football in regards to distasteful crowd
behaviour verbally. As DazzaS quite rightly stated, abuse of
players/coaches/referees/fellow supporters, and trying to put
off kickers shouldn’t happen nor be tolerated, but if you
disagree with something and you feel it has injustice too right
voice it.
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