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       #Post#: 72368--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Champions Cup draw
   DIR By: The Absolute Quintet
       Date: July 21, 2021, 8:31 am
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       Made the trip the last time we were drawn with Castres. It's a
       fine town, as most rural French places are. Lovely square,
       plenty of bars and restaurants and interesting architecture
       directly on the river. Seem to recall we met up at a decent bar
       on the river and had a big lunch in the restaurant on the first
       floor before a late PM KO. It's a short walk to the stadium from
       the centre and the ground is low key and nothing special a la
       Montpellier or Clermont.
       I'd certainly recommend it, although it is relatively
       inaccessible. Toulouse flight plus a car hire is probably best
       or train, as FF suggests.
       It was cold that weekend and snowed during the game, but by that
       time I was fully insulated against the weather.
       #Post#: 72370--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Champions Cup draw
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: July 21, 2021, 10:05 am
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
       >
       > I've been there for a fleeting visit but it's a lovely area
       and I believe a very nice town. I'd be surprised if anyone who
       likes France didn't suggest a good time could be had there.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       In Summer it's a lovely small town with an old town at its core,
       with plenty of bars and restaurants. In winter, as with many
       places, its a bit dreary, but there's plenty of places to go.
       Fast train from Paris (Montparnasse) to Castres, via Toulouse,
       takes 6 ¼ hours (others 8 to 12 hours); I'd be inclined to fly
       to Toulouse if you're short of time, otherwise would be ~ 10-12
       hour (no allowance for long lunch in Paris) Journey from Central
       London as opposed to, say, a 4 hour flight (including checking
       in time at LGW) and a relatively fast (just over an hour)
       journey to Castres from Toulouse Matabiau...
       If you want a long lunch in Paris, then you'd need to go close
       to Montparnasse, as the last fast train leaves at 13:45 (in
       summer - it wouldn't give me times for Dec/Jan).
       Fly to Toulouse and have lunch there or just go direct to
       Castres!
       Im hoping Bath play La Rochelle the same weekend and the timings
       work out so both could be seen, followed by some Apres Ski at an
       appropriate resort in the Pyrenees...
       [emoji486][emoji485][emoji886][emoji203][emoji508][emoji464][emoji961][emoji482]
       #Post#: 72372--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Champions Cup draw
   DIR By: Nico Wilson
       Date: July 21, 2021, 10:54 am
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       --- Quote from: Bolly-Quin link ---
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       > If you want a long lunch in Paris, then you'd need to go close
       to Montparnasse, as the last fast train leaves at 13:45 (in
       summer - it wouldn't give me times for Dec/Jan).
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       For a meal with a fantastic view, I'd recommend the restaurant
       on top of the Montparnasse tower:
  HTML https://www.tourmontparnasse56.com/en/visit-paris/restaurant-with-a-panoramic-view-of-paris/
       Many years ago I had such a good lunch there that I missed the
       Eurostar back to London......
       #Post#: 72374--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Champions Cup draw
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: July 21, 2021, 11:28 am
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       --- Quote from: dinsdale link ---
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       > Anbody been to Castres before?  Is it a decent town for a
       night out?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Tbh there is very little there, the ground isn’t up to much with
       very poor facilities when we last went
       If you are there in a Sunday the place is shut, we where told
       it’s nice in the summer
       There was snow last time we went
       There is an Irish bar next to team shop that was very lively,
       best bet is Toulouse and get a bus to ground
       #Post#: 72379--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Champions Cup draw
   DIR By: Bayernquin
       Date: July 21, 2021, 2:31 pm
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       Any info on when dates and times will be known?
       #Post#: 72388--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Champions Cup draw
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: July 22, 2021, 4:19 am
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       --- Quote from: Bolly-Quin link ---
       >
       > In Summer it's a lovely small town with an old town at its
       core, with plenty of bars and restaurants. In winter, as with
       many places, its a bit dreary, but there's plenty of places to
       go.
       >
       > Fast train from Paris (Montparnasse) to Castres, via Toulouse,
       takes 6 ¼ hours (others 8 to 12 hours); I'd be inclined to fly
       to Toulouse if you're short of time, otherwise would be ~ 10-12
       hour (no allowance for long lunch in Paris) Journey from Central
       London as opposed to, say, a 4 hour flight (including checking
       in time at LGW) and a relatively fast (just over an hour)
       journey to Castres from Toulouse Matabiau...
       >
       > If you want a long lunch in Paris, then you'd need to go close
       to Montparnasse, as the last fast train leaves at 13:45 (in
       summer - it wouldn't give me times for Dec/Jan).
       >
       > Fly to Toulouse and have lunch there or just go direct to
       Castres!
       >
       > Im hoping Bath play La Rochelle the same weekend and the
       timings work out so both could be seen, followed by some Apres
       Ski at an appropriate resort in the Pyrenees...
       >
       >
       [emoji486][emoji485][emoji886][emoji203][emoji508][emoji464][emoji961][emoji482]
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       How is the Diet going....?
       #Post#: 72393--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Champions Cup draw
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: July 22, 2021, 5:38 am
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       --- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
       >
       > How is the Diet going....?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Ha - I decided to sew two shirts together
       #Post#: 72394--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Champions Cup draw
   DIR By: Bucksquin
       Date: July 22, 2021, 5:42 am
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       Anyone know when the specific matches (home/away/opposition) and
       exact dates will be published? Hard to plan things until we know
       that!
       #Post#: 72395--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Champions Cup draw
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: July 22, 2021, 5:56 am
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       --- Quote from: Bucksquin link ---
       >
       > Anyone know when the specific matches (home/away/opposition)
       and exact dates will be published? Hard to plan things until we
       know that!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       At the end of the video stream of the draw, the presenter said
       that they would be announced as soon as they can. The issue is
       that they have to work with the broadcasters in multiple
       territories to agree schedules as well as Clubs preferred
       days/times etc.
       I wonder if the games are going to be "back to back" fixtures
       (we play Castres away in round 1, home in round 2, Cardiff home
       in round 3, away in round 4) or if they'll be splitting the
       fixtures (Castres Away in round 1, Cardiff Home in round 2,
       Cardiff away in round 3, Castres home in round 4).
       #Post#: 72492--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Champions Cup draw
   DIR By: Le Tiss
       Date: July 25, 2021, 4:15 am
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       Am I the only idiot who is confused by this. Why are there 2
       teams in brackets?
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