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#Post#: 72335--------------------------------------------------
Re: European Champions Cup draw
DIR By: Kermitpower
Date: July 20, 2021, 11:24 am
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--- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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> It favours Tier 1 teams quite heavily since they are only
playing the Tier 4 teams (and vice versa). The Tier 2 & 3
matches in theory will be much tougher.
>
> Having said that, obviously seeding can never be perfect as
it's based on last years performance.
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You're not kidding! ;D
If we'd lost at Ashton Gate, whilst I wouldn't be overly fussed
about playing one of Scarlets or Ospreys, on the French front,
the choice of Castres or Montpellier as opposed to Clermont or
Racing is a pretty huge advantage.
Still, it's not quite as absurd as the RWC '23 draw...
#Post#: 72350--------------------------------------------------
Re: European Champions Cup draw
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: July 21, 2021, 3:47 am
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--- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
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> Correct. There's only home and away games against {Cardiff or
Glasgow} and {Castres or Montpellier}. Then it's into the Round
of 16 where it's the top 8 from each of the pools go through.
Those games are home & away, then QF, SF & F.
>
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Wait. What? So how many games do we play in the Round of 16 and
are they included in our ST's?
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Re: European Champions Cup draw
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: July 21, 2021, 3:55 am
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--- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
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> Wait. What? So how many games do we play in the Round of 16
and are they included in our ST's?
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2 games, home and away, assuming we qualify. Not sure if they
are included in the ST but hopefully since we only get 2 home
games in the pools.
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Re: European Champions Cup draw
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: July 21, 2021, 4:47 am
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--- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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> 2 games, home and away, assuming we qualify. Not sure if they
are included in the ST but hopefully since we only get 2 home
games in the pools.
>
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I doubt they'll be included in the ST given that they're a
knock-out stage. Remember we have one extra home game in the
Prem with the extra team so that means we have 16 home games
already before the round of 16 (12 Prem, 2 Prem Cup, 2
European).
#Post#: 72358--------------------------------------------------
Re: European Champions Cup draw
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: July 21, 2021, 6:07 am
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Here we go, draw's just starting...
We're in Pool B
Pool A
T1: Stade Rochelais; Exeter; Leinster
T2: Racing 92; Sale; Ulster
T3: Clermont; Northampton; Ospreys
T4: Montpellier; Bath; Glasgow
Pool B
T1: Toulouse; Quins; Munster
T2: Bordeaux Begles; Bristol; Connacht
T3: Stade Francais; Leicester; Scarlets
T4: Castres; Wasps; Cardiff
Away Days in Castres and Cardiff it is, then!
#Post#: 72360--------------------------------------------------
Re: European Champions Cup draw
DIR By: J Scott
Date: July 21, 2021, 7:19 am
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Do we know when the dates will be confirmed? Flights look cheap
enough to Toulouse then I think it’s a train.
#Post#: 72361--------------------------------------------------
Re: European Champions Cup draw
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: July 21, 2021, 7:20 am
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Full Draw
2021/22 HEINEKEN CHAMPIONS CUP
POOL A (with opponents in brackets)
Stade Rochelais (Bath Rugby, Glasgow Warriors)
Exeter Chiefs (Montpellier Hérault Rugby, Glasgow Warriors)
Leinster Rugby (Montpellier Hérault Rugby, Bath Rugby)
Racing 92 (Northampton Saints, Ospreys)
Sale Sharks (ASM Clermont Auvergne, Ospreys)
Ulster Rugby (ASM Clermont Auvergne, Northampton Saints)
ASM Clermont Auvergne (Sale Sharks, Ulster Rugby)
Northampton Saints (Racing 92, Ulster Rugby)
Ospreys (Racing 92, Sale Sharks)
Montpellier Hérault Rugby (Exeter Chiefs, Leinster Rugby)
Bath Rugby (Stade Rochelais, Leinster Rugby)
Glasgow Warriors (Stade Rochelais, Exeter Chiefs)
POOL B (with opponents in brackets)
Stade Toulousain (Wasps, Cardiff Rugby)
Harlequins (Castres Olympique, Cardiff Rugby)
Munster Rugby (Castres Olympique, Wasps)
Union Bordeaux-Bègles (Leicester Tigers, Scarlets)
Bristol Bears (Stade Français Paris, Scarlets)
Connacht Rugby (Stade Français Paris, Leicester Tigers)
Stade Français Paris (Bristol Bears, Connacht Rugby)
Leicester Tigers (Union Bordeaux-Bègles, Connacht Rugby)
Scarlets (Union Bordeaux-Bègles, Bristol Bears)
Castres Olympique (Harlequins, Munster Rugby)
Wasps (Stade Toulousain, Munster Rugby)
Cardiff Rugby (Stade Toulousain, Harlequins)
2021/22 weekends
Round 1 – 10/11/12 December
Round 2 – 17/18/19 December
Round 3 – 14/15/16 January 2022
Round 4 – 21/22/23 January 2022
Round of 16 (1st leg) – 8/9/10 April 2022
Round of 16 (2nd leg) – 15/16/17 April 2022
Quarter-finals – 6/7/8 May 2022
Semi-finals – 13/14/15 May 2022
Challenge Cup final – Friday 27 May 2022; Stade Vélodrome,
Marseille
Heineken Champions Cup final – Saturday 28 May 2022; Stade
Vélodrome, Marseille
#Post#: 72365--------------------------------------------------
Re: European Champions Cup draw
DIR By: dinsdale
Date: July 21, 2021, 8:11 am
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Anbody been to Castres before? Is it a decent town for a night
out?
#Post#: 72366--------------------------------------------------
Re: European Champions Cup draw
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: July 21, 2021, 8:14 am
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--- Quote from: dinsdale link ---
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> Anbody been to Castres before? Is it a decent town for a
night out?
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I've been there for a fleeting visit but it's a lovely area and
I believe a very nice town. I'd be surprised if anyone who likes
France didn't suggest a good time could be had there.
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Re: European Champions Cup draw
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: July 21, 2021, 8:20 am
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--- Quote from: J Scott link ---
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> Do we know when the dates will be confirmed? Flights look
cheap enough to Toulouse then I think it’s a train.
>
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Might as well do the whole thing by train. Takes a little longer
but it allows a stop in Paris for lunch, the security is more
relaxed on what you're allowed to take through, and the journey
itself is more fun.
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