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Re: Tabai Matson to join coaching team ahead of new season
DIR By: Quinston Churchill
Date: July 2, 2021, 7:03 am
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I trust that we’ve given this due consideration and I’m pleased
to welcome him on board.
How about we give him the benefit of the doubt and just get
behind him?
The relentless negativity or glass half empty mentality of some
posters genuinely puzzles me.
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Re: Tabai Matson to join coaching team ahead of new season
DIR By: poorfour
Date: July 2, 2021, 7:05 am
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--- Quote from: Bucksquin link ---
>
> But does one have a "wholesale shakeup of the coaching setup"
if one already has a great coach on board ...?
>
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And NZRU kept him on board - in a different role which was
arguably a promotion and certainly a development opportunity.
The point is that it wasn't a club-level thing - they were
looking at the whole coaching roster and working out where best
to put them, both for the clubs and for the All Blacks setup as
a whole.
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Re: Tabai Matson to join coaching team ahead of new season
DIR By: Bucksquin
Date: July 2, 2021, 7:15 am
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--- Quote from: poorfour link ---
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> And NZRU kept him on board - in a different role which was
arguably a promotion and certainly a development opportunity.
The point is that it wasn't a club-level thing - they were
looking at the whole coaching roster and working out where best
to put them, both for the clubs and for the All Blacks setup as
a whole.
>
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But did they "keep him on board"? The Quins' press release says
he is joining us "following the conclusion of his role as Head
Coach of the New Zealand U20s side."
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Re: Tabai Matson to join coaching team ahead of new season
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: July 2, 2021, 7:15 am
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--- Quote from: poorfour link ---
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> And NZRU kept him on board - in a different role which was
arguably a promotion and certainly a development opportunity.
The point is that it wasn't a club-level thing - they were
looking at the whole coaching roster and working out where best
to put them, both for the clubs and for the All Blacks setup as
a whole.
>
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Re: Tabai Matson to join coaching team ahead of new season
DIR By: Bucksquin
Date: July 2, 2021, 7:16 am
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--- Quote from: Bucksquin link ---
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> But did they "keep him on board"? The Quins' press release
says he is joining us "following the conclusion of his role as
Head Coach of the New Zealand U20s side."
>
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I suppose one could read it either way.
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Re: Tabai Matson to join coaching team ahead of new season
DIR By: Bucksquin
Date: July 2, 2021, 7:17 am
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> Is his CV available publicly? Which bits didn't you like?
>
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It's set out in some detail in the Quins' press release.
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Re: Tabai Matson to join coaching team ahead of new season
DIR By: Monte
Date: July 2, 2021, 7:30 am
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--- Quote from: Bucksquin link ---
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> I assume that he read that in a recent UK press interview with
the current coaches. At least he remembered it and was able to
recite it, I suppose.
>
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No it is an old interview going back quite a few years will try
and find it
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Re: Tabai Matson to join coaching team ahead of new season
DIR By: Guildford Quin
Date: July 2, 2021, 7:44 am
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As long as his appointment has the buy-in from the existing
coaches and senior players, and he's here to compliment what has
been established, not overhaul it, then hopefully we can all get
behind him. It does slightly beg the question what "extra
resources in the coaching department" were identified in the
middle of last season that haven't been resolved since in
delivering a Premiership title? I appreciate there may have been
a gap to fill when Gustard left, but the existing coaching group
and senior players seem to have more than filled it
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Re: Tabai Matson to join coaching team ahead of new season
DIR By: poorfour
Date: July 2, 2021, 8:00 am
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[quote=Bucksquin]But did they "keep him on board"? The Quins'
press release says he is joining us "following the conclusion of
his role as Head Coach of the New Zealand U20s side."[/quote]
They kept him on board when they reshuffled the countrywide
coaching setup, moving him from a club role to the U20s. I
assume the fact that he hasn't come over means he's seeing out
his role with the U20s to the end of their season, and is only
then free to join Quins. He's not moving mid-season like Gustard
or Diamond did.
We never really know with these types of move how much is "jump"
and how much is "be pushed", but when someone moves to be Head
Coach of a leading international team and brand, it's not
usually because they're at a loose end somewhere else and have
nothing better to do.
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Re: Tabai Matson to join coaching team ahead of new season
DIR By: Bucksquin
Date: July 2, 2021, 8:01 am
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--- Quote from: Neil Quinnock link ---
>
> As long as his appointment has the buy-in from the existing
coaches and senior players, and he's here to compliment what has
been established, not overhaul it, then hopefully we can all get
behind him. It does slightly beg the question what "extra
resources in the coaching department" were identified in the
middle of last season that haven't been resolved since in
delivering a Premiership title? I appreciate there may have been
a gap to fill when Gustard left, but the existing coaching group
and senior players seem to have more than filled it
>
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Yes, whatever the "gap" is — whether it's in aspects of
coaching, or recruitment, or general management (which I thought
was Millard's brief?) — it would be helpful to know, then we can
see what he's adding, where, and how the coaches relate to him.
Is he their boss for example? Is he Millard's boss, or are they
on a level, reporting to, say, Laurie? If he is the coaches'
boss, presumably he has power to hire and fire, and/or to tell
them he wants aspects of the game played or coached differently.
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