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       #Post#: 71102--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 4 Quins Called Up to England Squad
   DIR By: Grins
       Date: June 29, 2021, 2:54 am
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       --- Quote from: Man From LA link ---
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       > Picking Umaga over Joe Simmonds is laughable. Good grief.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       But he didn't really do that - Simmonds was not available when
       Umaga was picked.
       #Post#: 71103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 4 Quins Called Up to England Squad
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: June 29, 2021, 3:03 am
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       --- Quote from: Grins link ---
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       > But he didn't really do that - Simmonds was not available when
       Umaga was picked.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He sort of did though - by keeping Umaga in and not calling up
       Simmonds. Plenty of other players got released v recently...
       #Post#: 71104--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 4 Quins Called Up to England Squad
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: June 29, 2021, 3:09 am
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       Really like this England squad. If i was running the show (Sadly
       Quins didn't approach either) Id pick..
       1. Obano
       2. Blamire
       3. Genge
       4. Ewels
       5. Munga
       6. Ted Hill
       7. Underhill
       8. Dombrandt
       9. Mitchell
       10. Smith
       11. Bassett
       12. Slade
       13. Marchant
       14. Radwan
       15 Malins
       I think this gives a good balance of young up and coming players
       whilst supported by players who aren't strangers to
       internationals.
       #Post#: 71107--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 4 Quins Called Up to England Squad
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: June 29, 2021, 3:16 am
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       If Kenningham doesn't get called up then Lynagh probably doesn't
       even think about it but that probably has made him feel a bit
       low about not being selected. Accepting that Khan (see above)
       actually plays the way EJ wants a 7 to play so would be a
       shoe-in.
       In Lynagh's defence, Radawan, Sleighthome, Furbank etc haven't
       just scored 4 tries in 2 knock out games including wining a
       final.
       #Post#: 71108--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 4 Quins Called Up to England Squad
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: June 29, 2021, 3:18 am
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       Not sure I'd agree with that, MQ - you have quite a lot of
       players out of position.
       Genge is a loosehead, not a tighthead; Ewels is arguably more of
       a 5 than a 4; Slade hasn't played inside centre in ages.
       I'd probably be looking at something more like:
       Genge Blamire Hill
       McNally Ewels
       Ludlow Underhill Dombrandt
       Mitchell Smith
       Lawrence Marchant
       Bassett Radwan Steward (I'd like to see what Steward can do; he
       looks more like a natural fullback than Malins)
       That said, I hope that Eddie tries out a few players, especially
       in the back row. I'd love to see Kenningham take the next step
       and get at least part of a game.
       #Post#: 71109--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 4 Quins Called Up to England Squad
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: June 29, 2021, 3:22 am
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       Has Underhill recovered from his concussion?
       You're picking Lawrence out of position there, poorfour ;-)
       (Kelly or Ojomoh are the options I think - but I know Slade and
       Lawrence are considered to be potential 12s by Eddie). Would you
       consider Malins on the wing? It's worked very well for Bristol
       and I think it'd add a lot to the team - and while I like
       Bassett, I don't think he'll go any further than these games.
       #Post#: 71110--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 4 Quins Called Up to England Squad
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: June 29, 2021, 3:32 am
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       --- Quote from: poorfour link ---
       >
       > Not sure I'd agree with that, MQ - you have quite a lot of
       players out of position.
       > Genge is a loosehead, not a tighthead; Ewels is arguably more
       of a 5 than a 4; Slade hasn't played inside centre in ages.
       >
       > I'd probably be looking at something more like:
       > Genge Blamire Hill
       > McNally Ewels
       > Ludlow Underhill Dombrandt
       >
       > Mitchell Smith
       > Lawrence Marchant
       > Bassett Radwan Steward (I'd like to see what Steward can do;
       he looks more like a natural fullback than Malins)
       >
       > That said, I hope that Eddie tries out a few players,
       especially in the back row. I'd love to see Kenningham take the
       next step and get at least part of a game.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       My bad with Genge, forgot he was a loosehead rather than tight.
       I know slade has featured more for Exeter at 13 however I think
       he offered more of a playmaking option and offers something
       different, whereas i think a midfield combo of Lawrence and
       Marchant has less variety.
       #Post#: 71115--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 4 Quins Called Up to England Squad
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: June 29, 2021, 3:57 am
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
       >
       > If Kenningham doesn't get called up then Lynagh probably
       doesn't even think about it but that probably has made him feel
       a bit low about not being selected. Accepting that Khan (see
       above) actually plays the way EJ wants a 7 to play so would be a
       shoe-in.
       >
       > In Lynagh's defence, Radawan, Sleighthome, Furbank etc haven't
       just scored 4 tries in 2 knock out games including wining a
       final.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Lynagh's scoring rate of 2.3 points per game is the best in the
       club apart from the fly halves (Smith is on 9+), and a fraction
       ahead of Dombrandt at the 4th decimal place. Kenningham's is
       also remarkable, for a flanker, at 1.667. It's not quite as good
       as Sleightholme's though - he's on 3.2. Way better than
       Steward's, on 0.5. Couldn't find Radwan's stats.
       Who knows what Eddie is looking for? I'd have to say that
       Lynagh's done all he possibly could to stake a claim. Not only
       has his try scoring been excellent, but one or two mistakes
       aside he's been exceptionally solid in defence. Not many players
       can stop a charging Sam Simmonds, but Lynagh did it twice in the
       final and took down Radradra the previous week for good measure.
       By the way, because I am a bit sad that way, I worked out the
       average points per game for our likely XXIII next season. In an
       average game for Quins we should score over 30 points.
       #Post#: 71127--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 4 Quins Called Up to England Squad
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: June 29, 2021, 5:00 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > He sort of did though - by keeping Umaga in and not calling up
       Simmonds. Plenty of other players got released v recently...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not questioning that, but I think EJ probably thinks Joe S needs
       a rest - had an extended season with European Cup win in October
       and play-offs/final for Premiership during same month. He also
       knows his game is the same type of game played by Ford/Farrell,
       with minor variation - Umaga and Smith are different.
       Also, like Lynagh, he missed a boat load of tackles - made 8,
       missed 7 (Smith - 13/0): Lynagh made 4 and missed 6 (Murley
       5/0): this might be one of the reasons Lynagh isn't in - he
       needs to improve his defence: he can tackle - witness taking out
       the other Simmonds early in the game, but he needs to be more
       consistent. This is his first season - he's still a bit callow,
       but has heaps of potential to be the real deal: his time will
       come.
       Stats from:-
  HTML https://www.premiershiprugby.com/match-report/exeter-chiefs-38-40-harlequins#statistics
       #Post#: 71140--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 4 Quins Called Up to England Squad
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: June 29, 2021, 5:40 am
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
       >
       > My bad with Genge, forgot he was a loosehead rather than
       tight.
       > I know slade has featured more for Exeter at 13 however I
       think he offered more of a playmaking option and offers
       something different, whereas i think a midfield combo of
       Lawrence and Marchant has less variety.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Slade was originally a 10 who played some 12, but it's been
       clear over the years that he's a better player the further he
       gets from 10. He can play 12 and has experience there but he's a
       much better player at 13.
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