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Re: Marcus Smith & England
DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
Date: June 27, 2021, 12:30 pm
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I dont think Marcus will feature much for EJ, unless Ford does a
full Jeremy Staunton next season it will leave him no choice to
be dropped.
I wouldn't put Cipriani in the same bracket as Marcus anyway for
how his International career turned out, because Marcus isn't a
kn0b.
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Re: Marcus Smith & England
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: June 27, 2021, 4:00 pm
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--- Quote from: Neil Quinnock link ---
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> Errr no, I think you're mis-remembering the timeline
(wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey or flaky-shaky ?) - 2020 Premiership
Final 20th June 2020. Umaga called up to the England training
squad 26th October 2020.
>
HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/54691879
because of
the form he'd shown getting Wasps there.
> We can agree that his call-up ahead of Marcus and Simmonds was
probably not merited, then or now, and that Eddie's treatment of
certain players has been questionable. I agree with you BQ,
especially when filling the bench positions, but would always
prefer the Starting XV to all be players playing in their usual
club positions. How frustrating was it watching the Curry at
No.8 or Daley's Full-Back/Wing/Centre rotation when there were
Premiership players playing better in that position ? (I was
going to add Brown on the wing too but that was Lancaster)
>
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HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/54691879
Umaga called up to the 2020 6N squad. Before wasps' run to the
final.
Edit: ahhh, I see the confusion re: the delayed 6N - this
article from Jan 2020 might help clear it up:
HTML https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jan/21/jacob-umaga-discovered-england-six-nations-call-up-via-whatsapp-rugby-union<br
/>- he definitely got a callup for the original 6N squad last
year
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Re: Marcus Smith & England
DIR By: Bolly-Quin
Date: June 28, 2021, 3:52 am
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--- Quote from: Neil Quinnock link ---
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> I agree with you BQ, especially when filling the bench
positions, but would always prefer the Starting XV to all be
players playing in their usual club positions. How frustrating
was it watching the Curry at No.8 or Daley's
Full-Back/Wing/Centre rotation when there were Premiership
players playing better in that position ? (I was going to add
Brown on the wing too but that was Lancaster)
>
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It doesn't always work with all positions - hard to start Marler
as a No8, although he'd be great there too! ;)
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Re: Marcus Smith & England
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: June 28, 2021, 5:13 am
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:D 200+ posts should be enough to know that jammy is never
wrong
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Re: Marcus Smith & England
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: June 28, 2021, 5:18 am
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--- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
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> :D 200+ posts should be enough to know that jammy is never
wrong
>
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[emoji38]
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Re: Marcus Smith & England
DIR By: Carbonm
Date: June 28, 2021, 7:51 am
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> No chance of Smith getting a good chance under Jones. He might
cap him this summer but then he’ll be back behind Farrell and
Ford. He’s just not an Eddie Jones type of player. And the more
the country clamour for him, the less likely he’ll pick him,
we’ve seen him spitefully do this with numerous others like
Cipriani, Simmonds etc.
>
>
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Exactly, if you play Smith you have to drop Farrell (IMO) and
can't see that happening.
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Re: Marcus Smith & England
DIR By: Monte
Date: June 28, 2021, 9:01 am
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--- Quote from: Carbonm link ---
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> Exactly, if you play Smith you have to drop Farrell (IMO) and
can't see that happening.
>
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Maybe he could train Sarries to play his/our way?🤣
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Re: Marcus Smith & England
DIR By: Banstead Quin
Date: June 28, 2021, 9:24 am
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Do we know when Eddie's updated squad will be announced, as
there is nothing on the England web site?
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Re: Marcus Smith & England
DIR By: noah_jo
Date: June 28, 2021, 9:51 am
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5 pm if I had to guess
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Re: Marcus Smith & England
DIR By: Banstead Quin
Date: June 28, 2021, 10:41 am
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Thanks noah, they're up now on another thread. Good news as
well.
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