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#Post#: 70308--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is your all-time Harlequins 15?
DIR By: Pressie
Date: June 24, 2021, 3:20 am
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--- Quote from: West Stand Quin link ---
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> Having been a season ticket holder since 1990 (although they
didn’t do actual season tickets)
> 15. Brown
> 14. Harriman
> 13. Halliday
> 12. Greenwood
> 11. Monye
> 10. Evans
> 9. Care
> 8. Easter
> 7. Winterbottom
> 6. D Wilson
> 5. Horwill
> 4. Ackford
> 3. Sinkler
> 2. Wood
> 1. Marler
>
> 16. Baldwin
> 17. Leonard
> 18. Louw
> 19. Robson
> 20. Fasavalu
> 21. Gomarsal
> 22. Smith
> 23. Staples
>
> Would have loved to have put in; Lacroix, Robshaw,
Esterhuizen, JTH, Clifford, Sheasby, Luger but only so much room
>
> Carling not close for me as his priority was always England
and he spent a lot of time playing for Quins trying not to get
injured. Don’t get why people put Zinzan in their best ever
Quins teams. Was clearly a world class / legend for NZ but he
was very much past it when he came to Quins and didn’t put any
stand out performances in. Similarly Adam Jones did a great job
for Quins as a player but his influence was much more as a
mentor gor Sink & Collier who both were ahead of him playing
wise by that point and were selected for the big games ahead of
him
>
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Great team and very similar to my own thoughts. I would have
Brain Moore on the bench ahead of Baldwin and possibly Marchant
in place of Staples as he covers Wing and centre. Last one is
either Vos or Robshaw on the bench for me.
#Post#: 70312--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is your all-time Harlequins 15?
DIR By: euroquin
Date: June 24, 2021, 4:05 am
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> Enjoyed the thread, but anyone who doesn’t have a back row of
Robshaw, Vos, Easter has got the answer wrong.
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I can only assume that you never saw Winterbottom play. Possibly
the hardest man I've ever seen in the quarters. And I include
Moore in that (who does get in ahead of Woody for me).
#Post#: 70314--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is your all-time Harlequins 15?
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: June 24, 2021, 4:14 am
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> Ross < Louw
>
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*Ahem!* It was JJ at Tighthead in 2012. Ross had already left by
then
#Post#: 70328--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is your all-time Harlequins 15?
DIR By: poorfour
Date: June 24, 2021, 5:31 am
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--- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
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> *Ahem!* It was JJ at Tighthead in 2012. Ross had already left
by then
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I knew there would be one I misremembered. JJ < Louw, though.
Especially under the scrum laws.
#Post#: 70336--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is your all-time Harlequins 15?
DIR By: Camquin
Date: June 24, 2021, 6:25 am
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Nobody mentioned Pitbull. Jason Leonard possibly also is worthy
of mention.
There is a big problem in that the "amateur" players had day
jobs so did not have the time to spend in the gym or on the
training park that modern players do - and did not have the
nutrition and physio support. So even at their best, when they
might be the best player in Europe, they were at the level of a
modern championship or National 1 player.
Going back further, none of us know how good a player Adrian
Stoop was - though he is credited with inventing modern back
play.
Ditto Mickey Steel Bodger - whose career was ended early by an
ACL injury, though that meant he started is career as an
administrator.
#Post#: 70338--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is your all-time Harlequins 15?
DIR By: poorfour
Date: June 24, 2021, 6:42 am
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--- Quote from: Camquin link ---
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> Nobody mentioned Pitbull. Jason Leonard possibly also is
worthy of mention.
>
> There is a big problem in that the "amateur" players had day
jobs so did not have the time to spend in the gym or on the
training park that modern players do - and did not have the
nutrition and physio support. So even at their best, when they
might be the best player in Europe, they were at the level of a
modern championship or National 1 player.
>
> Going back further, none of us know how good a player Adrian
Stoop was - though he is credited with inventing modern back
play.
>
> Ditto Mickey Steel Bodger - whose career was ended early by an
ACL injury, though that meant he started is career as an
administrator.
>
>
>
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You could also include Stoop's proteges Ronald Poulton-Palmer
(who was killed in WWI before he could demonstrate more than a
glimpse of his talent) and Douglas Bader (whose career was ended
by slightly more than an ACL injury).
Stoop himself was independently wealthy and I believe was one of
the first athletes to dedicate himself to training in the way
we'd recognise it today. He'd definitely be a candidate for an
all time side - but most people are restricting themselves to
people they actually saw play in Quins colours.
#Post#: 70345--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is your all-time Harlequins 15?
DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
Date: June 24, 2021, 7:06 am
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being more serious in my approach I can't go against what most
have picked.
If i was picking a rotated squad for our most recent years
leaving out our biggest names that are on the other lists (last
15 years or so)
1. Ceri Jones
2. Dave Ward
3. James Johnston
4. Kohn
5. Robson
6. Vos
7. Skinner
9. Gommarsall
10. Mehrtens
11. Simon Keogh
12. Mel Deane
13. Tiesi
14 Williams
15 Duffy
#Post#: 70350--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is your all-time Harlequins 15?
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: June 24, 2021, 7:21 am
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--- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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> being more serious in my approach I can't go against what most
have picked.
>
> If i was picking a rotated squad for our most recent years
leaving out our biggest names that are on the other lists (last
15 years or so)
>
>
> 1. Ceri Jones
> 2. Dave Ward
> 3. James Johnston
> 4. Kohn
> 5. Robson
> 6. Vos
> 7. Skinner
> 9. Gommarsall
> 10. Mehrtens
> 11. Simon Keogh
> 12. Mel Deane
> 13. Tiesi
> 14 Williams
> 15 Duffy
>
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Appreciate what you're trying to do but surely there's a No. 8
that no-one's mentioned?
#Post#: 70354--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is your all-time Harlequins 15?
DIR By: Everyone’s a Quinner
Date: June 24, 2021, 7:32 am
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--- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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> being more serious in my approach I can't go against what most
have picked.
>
> If i was picking a rotated squad for our most recent years
leaving out our biggest names that are on the other lists (last
15 years or so)
>
>
> 1. Ceri Jones
> 2. Dave Ward
> 3. James Johnston
> 4. Kohn
> 5. Robson
> 6. Vos
> 7. Skinner
> 9. Gommarsall
> 10. Mehrtens
> 11. Simon Keogh
> 12. Mel Deane
> 13. Tiesi
> 14 Williams
> 15 Duffy
>
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Really liked Ceri Jones, great player. Always happy and smiley
around fans too
#Post#: 70355--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is your all-time Harlequins 15?
DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
Date: June 24, 2021, 7:36 am
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--- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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> Appreciate what you're trying to do but surely there's a No. 8
that no-one's mentioned?
>
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sharp observation.
im happy to announce my 8 pick outside of the Minty/Dombrandy
era..Tony Diprose
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