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       #Post#: 69103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NHS
       By: Rocker Date: June 18, 2021, 3:04 am
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       Half the NHS has done sod all for the last year and a bit...
       They stopped cancer treatment (including my late father's) they
       stopped pediatric care, cardiology etc..,
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       Re: Re: NHS
       By: Quinder Egg Date: June 18, 2021, 3:28 am
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       Eugh......another nail in the coffin of my optimism about some
       sort of normality coming back.
       So utterly disappointing.
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       Re: Re: NHS
       By: deadlyfrom5yardsout Date: June 18, 2021, 4:34 am
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       I have had actual surgery and CT Scans in the last few months,
       no problems and nothing to do with Covid. I will not hear a word
       spoken against any part of the NHS.
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       Re: Re: NHS
       By: Monte Date: June 18, 2021, 5:47 am
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       [quote author=Rocker link=topic=3765.msg69103#msg69103
       date=1624003467]
       Half the NHS has done sod all for the last year and a bit...
       They stopped cancer treatment (including my late father's) they
       stopped pediatric care, cardiology etc..,
       [/quote]
       Sorry not true I have a friend had a pacemaker fitted (not
       emergency), Nephew consultant inOxford working flat out in
       Oxford surgeon normally Urology but doing many cancer ops so
       please don’t generalise. I have had cardiology appointment, MRI
       scan ....I could go on.
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       Re: Re: NHS
       By: MadMax Date: June 18, 2021, 5:47 am
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       [quote author=Rocker link=topic=3765.msg69103#msg69103
       date=1624003467]
       Half the NHS has done sod all for the last year and a bit...
       They stopped cancer treatment (including my late father's) they
       stopped pediatric care, cardiology etc..,
       [/quote]
       They did not stop cancer treatment (as my brother will testify)
       nor did they stop the other care you mention nor has "half the
       NHS has done sod all for the last year and a bit".
       Your post is disgraceful and you should be ashamed.
       #Post#: 69134--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: NHS
       By: A222Quin Date: June 18, 2021, 6:05 am
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       Well this is veering off topic. People's experiences are likely
       to vary as they are likely to with an organisation as large as
       the NHS. If said experiences are rubbish those feelings are
       likely to be understandably raw. I've had some superb
       experiences with them and some downright awful since March 2020.
       Much the same as I did pre-Covid. I certainly wouldn't say that
       any of the staff have been doing naff all though.
       They've probably done the right thing refunding the tickets so
       that the finalists can have as many as possible. Do feel it's a
       bit of a shame that capacity is being reduced to 10,000 when HQ
       is 82,000 but thems the rules - 25% or 10,000 whichever is
       lower.
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       Re: Re: NHS
       By: Bolly-Quin Date: June 18, 2021, 8:14 am
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       [quote author=Rocker link=topic=3765.msg69103#msg69103
       date=1624003467]
       Half the NHS has done sod all for the last year and a bit...
       They stopped cancer treatment (including my late father's) they
       stopped pediatric care, cardiology etc..,
       [/quote]
       I do feel sorry for your father - I really feel for his family.
       My wife has had 4 relatives (uncles/aunts) die of cancer over
       the past 10 or so years and 2 sisters - and I have lost 2 great
       friends - I have been through the process more times than you'd
       want.
       But you're quite wrong about the NHS having done "sod all". I
       have three friends undergoing cancer treatment at the moment,
       all having started their treatment a year ago. I know several
       nurses who are not working in COVID wards and they are flat out.
       I do not know where you get your opinions from, but how you
       present them is crass and asinine.
       Shape up, man!  >:(
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       Re: Re: NHS
       By: RocQuin Date: June 18, 2021, 10:17 am
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       [quote author=MadMax link=topic=3765.msg69131#msg69131
       date=1624013264]
       They did not stop cancer treatment (as my brother will testify)
       nor did they stop the other care you mention nor has "half the
       NHS has done sod all for the last year and a bit".
       Your post is disgraceful and you should be ashamed.
       [/quote]
       My cancer treatment continued throughout this whole pandemic
       saga. One of my good friends is a surgeon in an NHS hospital,
       and he has not stopped at all over the last year or more, same
       for his wife, a nurse at a different hospital.
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       Re: Re: NHS
       By: Bayernquin Date: June 18, 2021, 4:55 pm
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       Back on topic from the NHS, how come the football is allowed
       25000 at Wembley? Their seems to be less consistency with the
       spectator numbers than with Premiership refereeing!
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       Re: Re: NHS
       By: Fearless Fred Date: June 19, 2021, 1:06 am
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       [quote author=Bayernquin link=topic=3765.msg69201#msg69201
       date=1624053306]
       Back on topic from the NHS, how come the football is allowed
       25000 at Wembley? Their seems to be less consistency with the
       spectator numbers than with Premiership refereeing!
       [/quote]
       Putting my sceptics hat on, I'd suggest it's down to how high
       profile the relative events are. Much as we'd like to think
       otherwise, the Prem Final just isn't as big a deal in the
       national non-sport press & public psyche as the Euros, Wimbledon
       or Ascot. Because of that, the people making the decisions want
       to put across the idea that they're opening things up without
       actually doing too much about it are picking pilot events based
       on the PR impact that the stories will have. By showing photos
       in the newspapers/on TV of bigger crowds at Wembley, in Centre
       Court or on the trackside at the races makes a bigger story than
       the crowds at Twickenham for the final.
       Football, Wimbledon, Ascot etc are more firmly ingrained into
       the national identity as events than the Premiership final is.
       When you want to to set a narrative of "Look! We're opening nice
       things for you!" while actually wanting to keep things locked
       down relatively tight generally, having crowds at Wembley etc
       hit home harder than crowds at the Rugby. It's a different
       matter when it comes to the 6 Nations. That's an event that has
       sufficient "draw" to the disinterested viewer to rival football,
       tennis, racing, etc. I reckon if we were playing the 6 Nations
       now, they'd let *that* be a pilot event.
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