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       Rugby tackles above the waist banned in RFU trial
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: June 14, 2021, 9:27 am
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       Rugby tackles above the waist banned in RFU trial
  HTML https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2021/06/14/rugby-tackles-waist-banned-rfu-trial/
       In a separate nationwide development, the tackle height for
       under-15 to under-18 rugby will be lowered from shoulder to
       armpit
       By Charlie Morgan,  RUGBY REPORTER 14 June 2021 • 10:34am
       Tackles above the waist will be outlawed in some age-grade
       matches next season as part of a law trial by the Rugby Football
       Union that could increase offloads and radically alter the
       nature of the sport.
       The initiative also aims to restrict dipping into contact from
       ball-carriers, in a bid to reduce head-to-head contact and
       prevent concussion. It will be evaluated in 1,200 club and
       school matches for boys and girls between under-16 and under-18
       levels.
       Having monitored the progress of a similar trial in France, the
       RFU expect there to be fewer rucks and more opportunities for
       passes out of contact.
       Injury surveillance will be collated and video analysis will be
       carried out over the 2021-22 season, with matches under these
       laws compared to 1,200 matches under standard ones at the same
       age-grade.
       “It’s an evidence-based, game-led approach,” said Simon Kemp,
       the RFU’s medical services director. “This is about head impact
       and concussion prevention. We know that the most effective
       control measures are law changes and coaching behaviour.
       “What we’re doing here is taking five or six years of data
       analysis to develop and implement a law change supported by
       coach input that we anticipate will have a positive effect on
       injury risk.”
       
       “Interim outcomes from the evaluation of a waist height tackle
       law variation in French community rugby show that a tackle at
       waist height or below — together with the prohibition of the
       ball carrier bending into contact — are having a positive impact
       on reducing the number of serious head impacts.
       “[The laws] are viewed positively by players, coaches and
       referees and from the video examples provided appeared to show a
       change in the shape of the game, with fewer rucks and more
       offloads.”
       
       “We are very excited to be evaluating a waist height tackle law
       variation of our own next season to see what we can learn from
       the data and player and coach feedback.”
       Those monitoring the trial must be wary of unintended
       consequences. As recently as January 2019, a law trial carried
       out over the pool stage of the Championship Cup was abandoned.
       After the legal tackle mark was lowered from shoulder to
       armpit-level, there was a rise in concussive incidents due to
       collisions where both tacklers and carriers were bent at the
       waist.
       Rugby’s different ‘tackle zones’
       How they change across the pyramid
       Senior: Below head or neck
       U9 to U18: Below armpits
       U16, U18 (selected trials):Below waist
  HTML https://cf.eip.telegraph.co.uk/illustrator-embed/content/71bf966611948daece7502692aef22a2b171fb29/1623672568039.jpg
       Meanwhile, the legal tackle height for under-15 to under-18
       age-groups will be lowered from the line of the shoulders to the
       line of the armpit.
       This brings it into line with the rules for those playing
       full-contact rugby between under-9 and under-14 levels in a bid
       to ease the transition of players that have endured seasons
       disrupted by Covid 19.
       “This is an exciting and important piece of work,” said John
       Lawn, the RFU’s head of game development.
       “We started planning for this back in 2019 and it builds on
       everything done in the age-grade game over the last decade,
       putting in place a building-block approach to full-contact
       rugby.
       
       “We want to make the game as safe as possible, but without
       losing the physical element that’s popular with players and this
       law change supports that.
       
       “As a result of the fallow 2020-2021 season due to Covid 19, all
       age-grade players, except for next season’s under-17 and
       under-18 age grades, will only have experienced tackling below
       the line of the armpit. A continuation of the laws they were
       previously familiar with will support their reintegration back
       into the game.
       
       “Maintaining a single tackle height also supports the
       integration of players in the dual or triple age bands in the
       girls’ game.”
       #Post#: 68809--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rugby tackles above the waist banned in RFU trial
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: June 14, 2021, 10:15 am
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       That sounds sensible to me - some of these kids won't have had
       proper contact for nearly two years, and keeping the point of
       contact low makes a lot of sense. There's still no substitute
       for coaching good tackle technique, though.
       #Post#: 68836--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rugby tackles above the waist banned in RFU trial
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: June 15, 2021, 2:47 am
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       And being coached on how to take a tackle too.
       #Post#: 68838--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rugby tackles above the waist banned in RFU trial
   DIR By: SwindonQuin
       Date: June 15, 2021, 2:57 am
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       I think it may well help in the long term development of
       tackling, however, if all tackles are below the waist does the
       risk of boot to head increase significantly?
       I may not have play for a decade and a bit but I do remember
       that studs hurt!
       Mind you getting cleared out by a 20 stone monster is what
       finished me off plus biting through my own tongue (due to my own
       poor technique I might add) such happy
       memories.....................
       #Post#: 68839--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rugby tackles above the waist banned in RFU trial
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: June 15, 2021, 3:03 am
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       --- Quote from: SwindonQuin link ---
       >
       > I think it may well help in the long term development of
       tackling, however, if all tackles are below the waist does the
       risk of boot to head increase significantly?
       >
       > I may not have play for a decade and a bit but I do remember
       that studs hurt!
       >
       > Mind you getting cleared out by a 20 stone monster is what
       finished me off plus biting through my own tongue (due to my own
       poor technique I might add) such happy
       memories.....................
       >
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Boot to head isn't really a problem compared to knee / hip to
       head...
       #Post#: 68848--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rugby tackles above the waist banned in RFU trial
   DIR By: sussexquin
       Date: June 15, 2021, 4:08 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > Boot to head isn't really a problem compared to knee / hip to
       head...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       the old tackling teaching of head behind the knees....
       #Post#: 68849--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rugby tackles above the waist banned in RFU trial
   DIR By: SwindonQuin
       Date: June 15, 2021, 4:09 am
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       I would there are similar risks, yes a shoulder can knock you
       out but a stud can blind you!
       There isnt a way to remove all the risks from a contact sport at
       the end of the day, no matter what rules you change there is
       always an element of risk with rugby.
       #Post#: 68851--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rugby tackles above the waist banned in RFU trial
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: June 15, 2021, 4:13 am
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       Right, but we're talking about frequency of injuries as studied
       for years and the dangers of concussion in particular. Boot to
       head isn't really a factor, but knees and hips are. There's
       loads of concussions. Very few people being blinded.
       It is about keeping risk to a manageable level.
       #Post#: 68854--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rugby tackles above the waist banned in RFU trial
   DIR By: SwindonQuin
       Date: June 15, 2021, 4:21 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > Right, but we're talking about frequency of injuries as
       studied for years and the dangers of concussion in particular.
       Boot to head isn't really a factor, but knees and hips are.
       There's loads of concussions. Very few people being blinded.
       >
       > It is about keeping risk to a manageable level.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Very true, as you say you can only follow the evidence, would be
       interesting to track to see if there were any marked increase on
       other injury's after this change/trial. maybe a little project
       for me to work on.
       #Post#: 68863--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rugby tackles above the waist banned in RFU trial
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: June 15, 2021, 4:41 am
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       --- Quote from: SwindonQuin link ---
       > ...getting cleared out by a 20 stone monster is what finished
       me off plus biting through my own tongue (due to my own poor
       technique I might add)...
       --- End Quote ---
       Is there a good way to bite through one's tongue?
       Not all 20 stoners are monsters - Goliath was widely
       misunderstood - he just wanted to make friends...
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