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#Post#: 64825--------------------------------------------------
Re: André Esterhuizen
DIR By: Kermitpower
Date: April 28, 2021, 11:49 am
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--- Quote from: MrSoloDolo link ---
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> I honestly think with losing Andre and Evans our season is now
100x harder and don't think Quins will hold 4th. Would love to
be proved wrong but I just cannot see how Quins hold out. Andre
takes so much pressure off Smith and is a massive go forward for
us with the ability to break and offload. I just don't see
Laiske or Benny Taps offering the same. Northmore has been
carving teams recently so hopefully he can step in.
>
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I'd be inclined to think we'll still manage it. Realistically,
we've surely only got Sale and Saints to worry about, as whilst
it might be mathematically possible for anyone from but Wuss to
still overtake us, the odds on anyone from Irish on down racking
up a minimum of 13 points our of the remaining 25 on offer even
if we don't score another point has to be pretty unrealistic.
The respective run ins for us, Saints and Sale are as follows,
with the numbers being current league position, along with Home
or Away...
Quins
Wasps H 9
Tigers A 8
Bath H 7
Sale A 3
Falcons H 11
Sale
Tigers H 8
Bath A 7
Bears H 1
Quins H 4
Chiefs A 2
Saints
Glaws H 10
Falcons A 11
Wasps H 9
Chiefs H 2
Bath A 7
Obviously any of those games could go any way, my best guess is
that Sale will lose out. Saints need one more win than us and
two more than Sale, but I can't see Sale beating either Bris,
and I can only seem them potentially beating Exeter if the
Chiefs can't change their finishing position one way or the
other as a result, and know they definitely won't be playing
Sale in the semi regardless of the result, as those are the only
circumstances in which I could see Rob Baxter resting players.
Our game against Sale is, of course, a massive one though!
#Post#: 64829--------------------------------------------------
Re: André Esterhuizen
DIR By: FishQuin
Date: April 28, 2021, 4:49 pm
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--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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> The infographic is wrong - the judgment says "striking with
the arm" and talks about the forearm, not the elbow.
>
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Ah, my mistake. I should have read the official ruling!
#Post#: 64830--------------------------------------------------
Re: André Esterhuizen
DIR By: Yareet
Date: April 28, 2021, 5:14 pm
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--- Quote from: Kermitpower link ---
>
> I'd be inclined to think we'll still manage it.
Realistically, we've surely only got Sale and Saints to worry
about, as whilst it might be mathematically possible for anyone
from but Wuss to still overtake us, the odds on anyone from
Irish on down racking up a minimum of 13 points our of the
remaining 25 on offer even if we don't score another point has
to be pretty unrealistic.
>
> The respective run ins for us, Saints and Sale are as follows,
with the numbers being current league position, along with Home
or Away...
>
> Quins
>
> Wasps H 9
> Tigers A 8
> Bath H 7
> Sale A 3
> Falcons H 11
>
> Sale
>
> Tigers H 8
> Bath A 7
> Bears H 1
> Quins H 4
> Chiefs A 2
>
> Saints
>
> Glaws H 10
> Falcons A 11
> Wasps H 9
> Chiefs H 2
> Bath A 7
>
> Obviously any of those games could go any way, my best guess
is that Sale will lose out. Saints need one more win than us
and two more than Sale, but I can't see Sale beating either
Bris, and I can only seem them potentially beating Exeter if the
Chiefs can't change their finishing position one way or the
other as a result, and know they definitely won't be playing
Sale in the semi regardless of the result, as those are the only
circumstances in which I could see Rob Baxter resting players.
>
> Our game against Sale is, of course, a massive one though!
>
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You know we’ve beaten Bristol this season, right?
#Post#: 64831--------------------------------------------------
Re: André Esterhuizen
DIR By: Fursty
Date: April 28, 2021, 5:17 pm
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Apologies if I’ve missed it but when does the 6 weeks start?
#Post#: 64832--------------------------------------------------
Re: André Esterhuizen
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: April 28, 2021, 5:37 pm
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--- Quote from: Fursty link ---
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> Apologies if I’ve missed it but when does the 6 weeks start?
>
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Err... next match?
#Post#: 64833--------------------------------------------------
Re: André Esterhuizen
DIR By: Fursty
Date: April 29, 2021, 12:44 am
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Thanks smart arse - the bans used to give a start date - because
they’re weeks not matches, so does this weekend count?
#Post#: 64834--------------------------------------------------
Re: André Esterhuizen
DIR By: Yareet
Date: April 29, 2021, 1:19 am
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--- Quote from: Fursty link ---
>
> Apologies if I’ve missed it but when does the 6 weeks start?
>
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He misses Wasps, Tigers, Bath, Sale, Falcons and TBC
#Post#: 64835--------------------------------------------------
Re: André Esterhuizen
DIR By: West Stand Quin
Date: April 29, 2021, 1:28 am
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Always thought it strange that rugby, unlike football does it in
weeks not matches. Also think like football it should be
domestic, euro or international bans depending on where the
offence took place. Never seems right a club should suffer when
a player gets cited for England & vice versa. An exception
being serious foul play (like gouging) which would be universal
#Post#: 64840--------------------------------------------------
Re: André Esterhuizen
DIR By: Yareet
Date: April 29, 2021, 4:20 am
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--- Quote from: West Stand Quin link ---
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> Always thought it strange that rugby, unlike football does it
in weeks not matches. Also think like football it should be
domestic, euro or international bans depending on where the
offence took place. Never seems right a club should suffer when
a player gets cited for England & vice versa. An exception
being serious foul play (like gouging) which would be universal
>
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Personally I feel that system would be too open to manipulation.
If a fringe player gets sent off in an international, who’s to
say when they would next have been selected anyway?
Appreciate that the same could be said of club players but the
available pool for a club is much more defined and therefore
even a fringe player missing is more obvious. Do bans still also
mean they can’t train?
Tl:dr I don’t think either system is perfect.
#Post#: 64842--------------------------------------------------
Re: André Esterhuizen
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: April 29, 2021, 4:24 am
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--- Quote from: Yareet link ---
>
> Personally I feel that system would be too open to
manipulation.
>
> If a fringe player gets sent off in an international, who’s to
say when they would next have been selected anyway?
>
> Appreciate that the same could be said of club players but the
available pool for a club is much more defined and therefore
even a fringe player missing is more obvious. Do bans still also
mean they can’t train?
>
> Tl:dr I don’t think either system is perfect.
>
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Would you have to develop a Matrix for when said banned player
might have appeared in future games?
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