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       #Post#: 64594--------------------------------------------------
       André Esterhuizen
   DIR By: brfc_quin
       Date: April 25, 2021, 12:36 pm
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       Given his red yesterday,  is it likely he will play again this
       season, especially given his red for a similar incident away at
       Gloucester?  Or will he be given a significant ban?
       #Post#: 64595--------------------------------------------------
       Re: André Esterhuizen
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: April 25, 2021, 12:46 pm
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       I don't know how they judge these issues, but it was a tussle
       between two players not in open play - it wasn't his elbow but
       his forearm as both players pulled each others shirts - admit
       that it was wrong to over-react and hope they are lenient.
       Dallaglio thought the red card was a bit rough and that a yellow
       would have sufficed, but then he's/was a roughly-toughty No 8
       and unless you've had ear/nose bitten off, its not really that
       bad.
       #Post#: 64597--------------------------------------------------
       Re: André Esterhuizen
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: April 25, 2021, 1:22 pm
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       Barnes also thought in commentary that a yellow would've
       sufficed. That said even with contrition the previous incident
       will count against him. I'd say the likely result is that he
       won't be available for the rest of the regular season but could
       be free to play in the Semis/Final
       #Post#: 64598--------------------------------------------------
       Re: André Esterhuizen
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: April 25, 2021, 1:25 pm
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       I’m expecting it to be a fair ban given his previous this
       season. You just can’t put your arms anywhere near the head. I
       think he’ll be best of pleading guilty, saying sorry and not
       eating any hobnobs.
       I’m still amazed after the melee where the initial focus was the
       ruckus involving Symo that they forgot all about that and
       focused solely on AE’s wide incident. Blair Cowan looked to be
       being a naughty boy in the footage I saw of that as well as Symo
       and his friend having a cuddle on the ground. I was expecting a
       yellow a piece for all that but Carley decided against it!
       #Post#: 64600--------------------------------------------------
       Re: André Esterhuizen
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: April 25, 2021, 1:38 pm
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       Hopefully it will just be a week or two, or they may even deem
       the red punishment enough.
       #Post#: 64603--------------------------------------------------
       Re: André Esterhuizen
   DIR By: Teddington Taff
       Date: April 25, 2021, 1:49 pm
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       If you look at it  - the Irish player was also flapping his
       hands in Andre's face prior to the shove.  And that's all it was
       a shove.  Sometimes common sense has to prevail?
       #Post#: 64604--------------------------------------------------
       Re: André Esterhuizen
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: April 25, 2021, 1:51 pm
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       If such a bad attack, why did Rona not get a mandatory HIA?  I
       can live with the card but if the ref thinks it’s that bad,
       where is the player welfare?  If it’s not that bad, yellow card.
       #Post#: 64605--------------------------------------------------
       Re: André Esterhuizen
   DIR By: Comet
       Date: April 25, 2021, 2:00 pm
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       I am feeling worried about it to be honest. I think his ban was
       4 or 5 weeks last time. This incident was way less severe and
       was possibly unintentional. However, the bottom line is that it
       is a second incident of elbow to face in a season.
       I hope they recognise that it wasn't severe (3 weeks) but then
       only add on a week for 'repeated' offence. I also hope they
       include the European weekends which means he only misses two
       games.
       I am doing a lot of hoping!!!!
       It is really frustrating because he is a great player and he
       doesn't need to get involved in this nonsense.  He will be
       missed. I am gutted that we rose to their wind-up tactics.
       Carley's attitude does not help the general mood of a match
       either, I am afraid to say. I think all of the other refs do a
       great job and are an important part of making each game
       enjoyable. Less so with him, I am afraid.
       #Post#: 64606--------------------------------------------------
       Re: André Esterhuizen
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: April 25, 2021, 2:02 pm
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       --- Quote from: FatQuin link ---
       >
       > If such a bad attack, why did Rona not get a mandatory HIA?  I
       can live with the card but if the ref thinks it’s that bad,
       where is the player welfare?  If it’s not that bad, yellow card.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Because it doesn't matter how much damage you do. Don't
       deliberately hit people in the face!
       #Post#: 64611--------------------------------------------------
       Re: André Esterhuizen
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: April 25, 2021, 2:39 pm
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       --- Quote from: Comet link ---
       > ...I also hope they include the European weekends which means
       he only misses two games.
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not sure if that's how it works - it surely refers to games
       that you could have played in (and since we're not in the Euro
       2nd Div Cup, they are not relevant), otherwise bans at the end
       of the season would be pointless.
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