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Premiership relegation: Vote on whether to ring-fence league for
2020-21 campaign delayed
DIR By: SwindonQuin
Date: February 5, 2021, 4:59 am
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HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55949041
A crucial decision on whether to scrap relegation from the
Premiership this season has been delayed.
The RFU council was due to decide on Friday whether to
ring-fence the league for the 2020-21 campaign.
However the Premiership clubs have requested more time "to
conclude consultation with stakeholders".
Top-flight English clubs hope to scrap relegation for the season
in light of the Covid crisis but an RFU spokesperson said the
vote was delayed.
With five matches this season already cancelled following
coronavirus outbreaks, and points allocated to the teams
involved, the clubs have argued that relegating a side in these
circumstances would be unfair.
If ring-fencing is approved by the RFU council, it would mean
expanding the league next season to 13 or 14 teams, with 2019
Premiership champions Saracens currently among the clubs waiting
for the second-tier Championship to restart.
However it is thought leading partners - such as broadcaster BT
Sport - would prefer to retain the jeopardy of relegation.
Meanwhile sources insist a vote on ring-fencing would only apply
for the current season, and would not mean the Premiership
becomes a permanently closed league.
"The RFU council were due to table a vote today on proposals
from the RFU around no relegation for the 2020-21 season from
the Gallagher Premiership," added an RFU spokesperson.
"The vote would also pave the way for a wider review of future
seasons' structures, including increased preparation time for
the England senior men's team ahead of Rugby World Cup 2023.
"Late last night Premiership Rugby requested more time to
conclude its consultation with stakeholders therefore the vote
will now be delayed."
#Post#: 58327--------------------------------------------------
Re: Premiership relegation: Vote on whether to ring-fence league
for 2020-21 campaign delayed
DIR By: MadMax
Date: February 5, 2021, 5:05 am
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Just goes to prove PRL couldn't arrange a drink in a brewery.
#Post#: 58328--------------------------------------------------
Re: Premiership relegation: Vote on whether to ring-fence league
for 2020-21 campaign delayed
DIR By: SwindonQuin
Date: February 5, 2021, 5:13 am
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What I don't get is that if there is no relegation then there
should be no promotion from the Championship.
Surely they cant let Sarries off the hook, it would be sticking
two fingers up at the clubs who are honest.
#Post#: 58330--------------------------------------------------
Re: Premiership relegation: Vote on whether to ring-fence league
for 2020-21 campaign delayed
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: February 5, 2021, 5:19 am
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--- Quote from: SwindonQuin link ---
>
> What I don't get is that if there is no relegation then there
should be no promotion from the Championship.
>
> Surely they cant let Sarries off the hook, it would be
sticking two fingers up at the clubs who are honest.
>
--- End Quote ---
Well, it depends what happens with the Championship. You can
just as easily argue that if the Championship is played then
denying the winners promotion would not be fair, regardless of
whether there is relegation from the Premiership or not.
Seems unlikely the Championship will be completed in any normal
fashion, though.
As always, BT will decide.
#Post#: 58331--------------------------------------------------
Re: Premiership relegation: Vote on whether to ring-fence league
for 2020-21 campaign delayed
DIR By: Banstead Quin
Date: February 5, 2021, 5:32 am
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Be interesting to see how people's decisions would be different
this season as opposed to a normal season. I personally say that
we need relegation.
#Post#: 58339--------------------------------------------------
Re: Premiership relegation: Vote on whether to ring-fence league
for 2020-21 campaign delayed
DIR By: TeddingtonQuin
Date: February 5, 2021, 6:08 am
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I've never been a fan of ringfencing the premiership as the
threat of relegation and the drama surrounding it is all part of
the competition. In fact it was more thrilling than the title
race in recent seasons with the cheating that went on!
#Post#: 58343--------------------------------------------------
Re: Premiership relegation: Vote on whether to ring-fence league
for 2020-21 campaign delayed
DIR By: M3quin
Date: February 5, 2021, 6:18 am
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Perhaps it should be that relegation remains, but a team can
only be considered for promotion if a full and proper
championship season has been completed and the team coming top
would then be considered for promotion if they met the criteria
already in place. If a full and proper season ( all teams had a
fair chance of coming top etc), or they do not meet the
criteria, then the team coming bottom of the premiership retains
their place.
#Post#: 58345--------------------------------------------------
Re: Premiership relegation: Vote on whether to ring-fence league
for 2020-21 campaign delayed
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: February 5, 2021, 6:18 am
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--- Quote from: TeddingtonQuin link ---
>
> I've never been a fan of ringfencing the premiership as the
threat of relegation and the drama surrounding it is all part of
the competition. In fact it was more thrilling than the title
race in recent seasons with the cheating that went on!
>
--- End Quote ---
I have to be honest, I've never found the relegation battle to
be exciting.
Last season - might have been exciting were it not for COVID and
Sarries being deducted points.
2018/19 - Newcastle were miles off the pace and nailed on for
the drop, though Tigers added some interest
2017/18 - Irish were properly dreadful and nailed on for the
drop
2016/17 - Bristol were properly dreadful and nailed on for the
drop
2015/16 - Irish and Newcaslte were properly dreadful, but Irish
were the worst.
It just seems that in most seasons you have one or maybe two
clubs in danger, playing godawful rugby, and they're destined
for the drop. There's no enjoyment in watching them play -
they're at the bottom for a reason - and it's usually obvious
quite some time before the end of the season that they're gonna
go down.
This season it's hard to say what would happen, again partly
thanks to COVID (and we may not get relegation at all,
obviously) but I'd be surprised if after, say, 14 matches it
wasn't just down to 2 or maybe even just 1 side in the running
for last place.
At least with the title challenge you have: the battle for top
4, the playoffs, and then the final itself - lots of drama for
the "main" season, then 3 one-offs where upsets can happen. And
they're usually playing much better rugby...!
#Post#: 58347--------------------------------------------------
Re: Premiership relegation: Vote on whether to ring-fence league
for 2020-21 campaign delayed
DIR By: raedarius
Date: February 5, 2021, 6:35 am
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If Leicester had played as badly as they did without the
guarantee of Saracens relegation, last season's relegation
battle would have been quite interesting.
#Post#: 58355--------------------------------------------------
Re: Premiership relegation: Vote on whether to ring-fence league
for 2020-21 campaign delayed
DIR By: Surbiton Quin
Date: February 5, 2021, 7:21 am
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It's reported in the DT that the hold up is due to BT sport. I
my view this is understandable as just as fan attendance tails
off when meaningless mid table games are played at the end of
the season the same will apply to viewing figures and thus
advertising revenue.
Why should BT pay the same for less return?
I think the relegation battle can have a lot more tension than
the play offs (I have very little interest unless Quins are in
them) and final - mainly because something more meaningful is at
stake - the whole next season rather then "winning the
premiership via a one off game" e.g. Wasps.
If there is to be no relegation due to covid, there also should
be no promotion due to covid, with the pressure on player
welfare and smaller squads (partially due to salary cap changes)
there seems to be no reason to add to that workload and
pressure. Ealing will be fine for another season, if it messes
up another clubs arrangements - maybe they shouldn't have been
so arrogant to assume that they must come straight back up.
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