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       #Post#: 54731--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Racing 92 - London into Tier 3
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: December 15, 2020, 6:39 am
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       Crack on... living with a dangerous virus with an exponential
       rate of infection, that'll kill a lot of "healthy" people and
       make many more very sick, possibly with permanent damage,
       overwhelming our health services and causing a huge number of
       excess deaths. While tanking the economy, because widespread
       disease means people can't work.
       Please can we not pretend that "vulnerable people get shielded,
       everyone else carries on" is a viable approach?
       Here's some expert opinion on these suggestions:
  HTML https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-barrington-declaration-an-open-letter-arguing-against-lockdown-policies-and-for-focused-protection/
       and some more:
  HTML https://www.johnsnowmemo.com/
       The long and short of it:
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       > Any pandemic management strategy relying upon immunity from
       natural infections for COVID-19 is flawed. Uncontrolled
       transmission in younger people risks significant morbidity and
       mortality across the whole population. In addition to the human
       cost, this would impact the workforce as a whole and overwhelm
       the ability of healthcare systems to provide acute and routine
       care.
       >
       > ...
       >
       > Defining who is vulnerable is complex, but even if we consider
       those at risk of severe illness, the proportion of vulnerable
       people constitute as much as 30% of the population in some
       regions. Prolonged isolation of large swathes of the population
       is practically impossible and highly unethical. Empirical
       evidence from many countries shows that it is not feasible to
       restrict uncontrolled outbreaks to particular sections of
       society.
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       #Post#: 54739--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Racing 92 - London into Tier 3
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: December 15, 2020, 7:57 am
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       --- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
       >
       > Back on to the topic, I can't see our game against Bristol six
       days after the Racing game having any crowd in either. We may be
       lucky with the LI game but I wouldn't bet on it if they go ahead
       with the relaxation of the rules over Christmas.
       >
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       I suspect that the Women's game against Sarries won't be
       happening either.  Which is a shame as I was looking forward to
       that.
       It was a shame that the last women's home game was behind closed
       doors. (I have no idea why??)
       #Post#: 54743--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Racing 92 - London into Tier 3
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: December 15, 2020, 8:32 am
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       From email:
       The government has confirmed that London will move from Tier 2
       to Tier 3 from Wednesday 16th December. The next government
       review of the COVID tiering system is 23rd December.
       Unfortunately, this means that our proposed up-coming match
       against Racing 92, with 2,000 supporters in attendance will now
       be played behind closed doors, with no supporters, while our
       subsequent matches remain with some uncertainty at this stage.
       
       Harlequins vs Racing 92, Heineken Champions Cup (Sunday 20th
       December 2020)
       Harlequins vs Bristol, Gallagher Premiership (Sat 26th December
       2020)
       Harlequins Women vs Saracens Women, Allianz Premier15s (Saturday
       2nd January 2021)
       Harlequins vs London Irish, Gallagher Premiership (Sunday 10th
       January 2021)
       #Post#: 54745--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Racing 92 - London into Tier 3
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: December 15, 2020, 9:04 am
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       Further emails from club
       This means that your tickets to the Harlequins Women vs Saracens
       Women match below will sadly no longer be valid:
       Harlequins Women vs Saracens Women, Allianz Premier15s (Saturday
       2nd January 2021)
       This means that all ballot applications for tickets to the
       Harlequins vs Bristol Bears match below will sadly no longer be
       valid:
       Harlequins vs Bristol Bears, Gallagher Premiership (Saturday
       26th December 2020)
       #Post#: 54748--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Racing 92 - London into Tier 3
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: December 15, 2020, 9:38 am
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       As I said, hardly surprising given that there's only 6 days
       between the Racing and Bristol games, including Christmas Day,
       so little chance for the tiers to be changed.
       #Post#: 54750--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Racing 92 - London into Tier 3
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: December 15, 2020, 9:50 am
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       I missed the most important bits of the emails
       HARLEQUINS VS BRISTOL BEARS TO BE PLAYED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS
       and
       HARLEQUINS WOMEN VS SARACENS WOMEN TO BE PLAYED BEHIND CLOSED
       DOORS
       . . . and just to reply on all the other points above - - -
       Down with the Tier 3 restrictions . . . unless of course, they
       are later proved to be a good thing, in which case, I am all for
       them.
       #Post#: 54765--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Racing 92 - London into Tier 3
   DIR By: raedarius
       Date: December 15, 2020, 12:35 pm
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       --- Quote from: Kermitpower link ---
       > If you then go and take a look at Twickenham itself on the
       link below, you'll see that Twickenham North, the home of the
       Stoop is being plunged into the highest tier of restrictions
       with a horrific infection rate of 56.7 per 100,000!  Widen that
       out to LB Richmond and that rises to 115.1 per 100,000 compared
       to a UK average of 173.5!
       --- End Quote ---
       And 400 metres away from The Stoop, the London Borough of
       Hounslow has considerably more.  London Borough boundaries mean
       something when it comes to council services and policing, but
       not that much more.
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