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       #Post#: 54659--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cards and penalties 
   DIR By: Twickersman
       Date: December 13, 2020, 3:55 pm
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       --- Quote from: SwindonQuin link ---
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       > Erm, calling people with a different opinion than you a
       demented idiots is rather off topic and frankly offensive.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Last time I checked, I am entitled to an opinion...as you are.
       #Post#: 54660--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cards and penalties 
   DIR By: SwindonQuin
       Date: December 13, 2020, 4:15 pm
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       --- Quote from: Twickersman link ---
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       > Last time I checked, I am entitled to an opinion...as you are.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You do, but, stating that that people who don't think Gustard is
       right for the club are demented idiots frankly is a slur, you
       are say that anyone who thinks the is by definition ' unable to
       think or act clearly' who are you to judge others mental health
       or ability to think!?
       #Post#: 54662--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cards and penalties 
   DIR By: Quinston Churchill
       Date: December 13, 2020, 4:25 pm
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       ::)
       TBH, the minute we lose, I expect to see a post from Bampotbill
       putting the boot in. I generally try not to react, but I think
       Twickersman’s post was a sign of frustration at the typical
       reactionary posts we see every time the result doesn’t go our
       way.
       If you choose to take that personally when it’s not even in
       reaction to one of your posts, that’s more your problem than his
       ...
       #Post#: 54663--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cards and penalties 
   DIR By: SwindonQuin
       Date: December 13, 2020, 4:27 pm
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       Ah the old 'i can post anything I like and if you take offense
       it's your problem' defence.
       I can post that way on here no problems, bet quite a few of you
       aren't going to like it though.............
       #Post#: 54665--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cards and penalties 
   DIR By: Quinston Churchill
       Date: December 13, 2020, 5:09 pm
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       Not exactly. It wasn’t my post you took offence to.
       It wasn’t ‘off topic’ though considering that the thread was
       started by Bampotbill who has a particular penchant for
       negativity.
       #Post#: 54667--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cards and penalties 
   DIR By: guest465
       Date: December 14, 2020, 12:45 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinston Churchill link ---
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       > ::)
       >
       > TBH, the minute we lose, I expect to see a post from
       Bampotbill putting the boot in. I generally try not to react,
       but I think Twickersman’s post was a sign of frustration at the
       typical reactionary posts we see every time the result doesn’t
       go our way.
       >
       > If you choose to take that personally when it’s not even in
       reaction to one of your posts, that’s more your problem than his
       ...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I will criticise when it is justified. For example Care
       deliberately running across to obstruct when there was cover ..
       marler(who may yet get cited) no arm smash .. these are
       unnecessary fouls which going right back to Ace Tiatia are
       seemingly entrained in our game plan
       #Post#: 54672--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cards and penalties 
   DIR By: Twickersman
       Date: December 14, 2020, 4:03 am
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       --- Quote from: SwindonQuin link ---
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       > You do, but, stating that that people who don't think Gustard
       is right for the club are demented idiots frankly is a slur, you
       are say that anyone who thinks the is by definition ' unable to
       think or act clearly' who are you to judge others mental health
       or ability to think!?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Look, those words, are, as mentioned, borne out of frustration
       by fans of the club like you constantly being negative. My
       opinion is that Gustard is doing an okay job and that the squad
       will take 4 or 5 years to turn into something special. Look at
       Sarries (Okay the cheated), Exter, Manchester United with Alex
       Ferguson, we need to get behind the guy and support him.
       If you take offense, I am sorry. I Should have worded it
       better....so I take those words back...instead...I would rather
       say 'Overractionary bleating of the supporters who seem to not
       have the best interest of the club at heart. They would rather
       see another cycle of change to come in before this one is even
       beginning to motor'.
       #Post#: 54681--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cards and penalties 
   DIR By: MadMax
       Date: December 14, 2020, 6:35 am
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       One of the problems seems to be that many of these mindless
       penalties are being given away by players who are in our
       leadership group - for example Care deciding to blatantly block
       a player when all he had to do was run alongside and bundle him
       into touch if and when he managed to catch the ball in the air
       and captain Dombrandt ludicrously taking out a player which was
       always going to result in at least a yellow card.
       It's utterly brainless week after week and it's not giving us a
       hard edge - it's giving the opposition a massive advantage.
       #Post#: 54682--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cards and penalties 
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: December 14, 2020, 6:47 am
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       Yep. When the pressure comes on numerous players will always
       make some pathetic choices and ruin it for everyone, and it's
       odd that it seems to always be the more senior players.
       #Post#: 54684--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cards and penalties 
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: December 14, 2020, 7:47 am
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       --- Quote from: MadMax link ---
       >
       > One of the problems seems to be that many of these mindless
       penalties are being given away by players who are in our
       leadership group - for example Care deciding to blatantly block
       a player when all he had to do was run alongside and bundle him
       into touch if and when he managed to catch the ball in the air
       and captain Dombrandt ludicrously taking out a player which was
       always going to result in at least a yellow card.
       >
       > It's utterly brainless week after week and it's not giving us
       a hard edge - it's giving the opposition a massive advantage.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think that the Evans yellow card/penalty try was just
       one-of-those-things.  Not sure it was overly brainless.  I am
       not even sure that he did it on purpose.
       But, clearly a penalty.  But, it was a bit of a shame that we
       got the double punishment.
       I do think though that the Care penalty was possibly a bit
       harsh. A different ref on a different day may have seen it
       differently.
       The reason I think it was harsh was that in my view, the ball
       was actually in touch.  The Munster player was trying to stay in
       the field of play and get the ball.  Therefore, they were always
       going to come into contact.
       What we did wrong though is that we didn't take advantage of the
       situation when they had a yellow card.
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