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#Post#: 54174--------------------------------------------------
Re: Red card
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: December 6, 2020, 2:49 pm
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I'd say it was silly niggle rather than thuggery. Sort of thing
that happened all the time but just idiotic with so many
cameras. Anything more than 3-4 week ban I think would be
excessive. Utterly brainless though
#Post#: 54175--------------------------------------------------
Re: Red card
DIR By: Saintquin
Date: December 6, 2020, 3:00 pm
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Don't know if he has a good or bad disciplinary record but it
was a deliberate elbow to the head who I don't think could
protect themselves.
Think most on here would be asking for the max if it happened to
one of our players.
Really disappointed as he was having a very good match!
#Post#: 54179--------------------------------------------------
Re: Red card
DIR By: Bolly-Quin
Date: December 6, 2020, 3:25 pm
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--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
>
> There's no excuse for the elbow, it looked deliberate and
clearly did a lot of damage.
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Sometimes, when I pick my nose, it can set off a nose bleed of
biblical proportions, so the amount of blood isn't an indication
of the severity, if that is what you're referring to; his action
fully deserved a red card and he might even make it back home to
SA for a Christmas break...
High[emoji151][emoji219][emoji774][emoji776]
#Post#: 54180--------------------------------------------------
Re: Red card
DIR By: quinalan
Date: December 6, 2020, 3:32 pm
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Well it happened right in front of Ian Tempest, who saw nothing,
& I couldn’t see anything from the multiple replays either. Both
players were on the ground from what I saw. Just hope it’s dealt
with properly. Thought Botta was totally stupid holding the
Gloucester props leg in the ruck earlier in the game.
#Post#: 54183--------------------------------------------------
Re: Red card
DIR By: BedfordshireBoy
Date: December 6, 2020, 3:44 pm
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Not at all clear to me but the TMO was most insistent leaving
Tempest with no choice, not something that I would want to
adjudicate on although many on here are pretty convinced of his
guilt.
#Post#: 54185--------------------------------------------------
Re: Red card
DIR By: honkytonk
Date: December 6, 2020, 3:49 pm
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Its pretty clear his elbow caught him, you can see it on the
clip from the far side of the pitch. I think it will come down
to was it a full on whack or did he lean into him. That could
be more difficult to work out
#Post#: 54190--------------------------------------------------
Re: Red card
DIR By: Harlequinade
Date: December 6, 2020, 4:43 pm
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Harlequins director of rugby Paul Gustard:
"Sometimes it's initially harder to play against 13 men as it
takes time to work what adjustments the other team have made in
terms of defence.
"Andre is a big man and is a physical player but it looked more
of an arm-wrestle to me and it took four-and-a-half minutes of
replays to make the decision to send him off after their player
alerted the referee to it."
#Post#: 54191--------------------------------------------------
Re: Red card
DIR By: Bolly-Quin
Date: December 6, 2020, 5:00 pm
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I'm not at all sure that those are the best chosen words voiced
by PG...
#Post#: 54192--------------------------------------------------
Re: Red card
DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
Date: December 6, 2020, 5:10 pm
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--- Quote from: honkytonk link ---
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> Its pretty clear his elbow caught him, you can see it on the
clip from the far side of the pitch. I think it will come down
to was it a full on whack or did he lean into him. That could
be more difficult to work out
>
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I wouldn't describe it as a lean. You can see in reasonable
close-up from one of the main camera angles the action of his
arm, although not the contact with the face from that particular
camera.
#Post#: 54193--------------------------------------------------
Re: Red card
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: December 6, 2020, 5:11 pm
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--- Quote from: Bolly-Quin link ---
>
> Sometimes, when I pick my nose, it can set off a nose bleed of
biblical proportions, so the amount of blood isn't an indication
of the severity, if that is what you're referring to; his action
fully deserved a red card and he might even make it back home to
SA for a Christmas break...
>
> High[emoji151][emoji219][emoji774][emoji776]
>
--- End Quote ---
when you pick your nose do you give yourself a concussion? he
failed an HIA.
I don't think anyone is served by downplaying this. It took a
while to find the angles but the ones they found show him
striking downwards with a braced elbow. We know it was enough
force to damage his nose and cause him a brain injury. It was
dirty - not niggly - and he deserves to cop a decent ban for it.
There's absolutely no reason for that behaviour.
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