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       Re: What has changed since JK left
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: November 21, 2020, 6:33 am
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       I remember our legendary seer calling Gustard out very early as
       not being a particularly nice bloke and full of himself.  I’ve
       seen nothing to suggest arniepie was wrong or that his approach
       has helped the players.
       #Post#: 53273--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What has changed since JK left
   DIR By: Twickersman
       Date: November 21, 2020, 6:35 am
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       I was in the first half impressed with the defence. The line
       sped was excellent and put the Chiefs under real pressure.
       Yes, mistakes happen and Northmore will be a better player for
       that mistake. He had apart from that mistake an excellent game
       and looks to have kicked on from his first pro season.
       Esterhauzen will get better and better.
       I have been critical of Glen Young, but he seems to be getting
       better in the loose.
       Garcia Botta had a poor game. Disappointing from an ex
       international.
       I like the looks of Louw and Kerrod at Tight head. We really
       need Marler back.
       It's not the end of the road for Gustard. I feel the team will
       be motivated to perform better.
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       Re: What has changed since JK left
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 21, 2020, 6:37 am
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       There has been absolutely nothing to suggest arniepie was right
       about that. There's a few coaches who are clearly unpleasant and
       it's obvious to everyone. Gustard seems like a nice guy -
       possibly too nice - and we play like we're not afraid of the
       coach as well.
       In other words, extraordinary claims require extraordinary
       proof. Arnie's contact is clearly bitter over something and
       without knowing what, you should take those comments with a big
       pinch of salt.
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       Re: What has changed since JK left
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: November 21, 2020, 6:41 am
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       I suspect Arnie's contact was a player that Gustard released.
       #Post#: 53278--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What has changed since JK left
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: November 21, 2020, 6:49 am
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       When Long left he said he was frustrated and argued with
       Gustard, when he wanted to try something he was told “ No you
       can’t do that” but when he spoke with other coaches via zoom was
       told his ideas where right
       So maybe it’s not such a great environment?
       #Post#: 53280--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What has changed since JK left
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: November 21, 2020, 6:53 am
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       No.  I’ve been told not to think something by Jammy so I shall
       stop thinking it.  Sorted!
       #Post#: 53281--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What has changed since JK left
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: November 21, 2020, 6:56 am
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       I was very vocal about wanting JK out, results were simply not
       good enough.
       However, since he went, we've lost our identity and our academy.
       At least under JK we lost trying to play nice rugby. Now we lose
       playing boring rugby, with players who seemt o be picked up at
       random from the bargain bin. There's no continuity, players like
       Sink and Ibitoye are leaving, and there doesn't appear to be any
       strategy to replace Brown, Care, Robshaw.
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       Re: What has changed since JK left
   DIR By: dinsdale
       Date: November 21, 2020, 7:01 am
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       Towards the end of JK's time there was clearly something wrong
       as most of the players didn't look like they cared.  It hasn't
       got that bad yet.
       However, we don't yet have evidence that Gustard is a good
       coach.  Last night it looked like we were trying Saracens
       tactics without Saracens skill levels.  We showed almost nothing
       in attack and lost the kicking battle.  We then failed to offer
       any alternative when it wasn't working.
       #Post#: 53284--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What has changed since JK left
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 21, 2020, 7:11 am
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       --- Quote from: FatQuin link ---
       >
       > No.  I’ve been told not to think something by Jammy so I shall
       stop thinking it.  Sorted!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That's not even close to what I said.
       #Post#: 53285--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What has changed since JK left
   DIR By: MadMax
       Date: November 21, 2020, 7:37 am
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       To me despite all the changes in personnel under Gustard we
       remain a very average mid-table team.
       The difference is that for the majority of the time under JK we
       seemed to have much more flair and spirit than we do now with
       the latter in my opinion being due to the fact we had a lot of
       players who had grown up together and/or played together for
       years producing a bond together with an understanding of the
       "Quins way".
       Now under Gustard we are just a boring team in a boring league
       that is increasingly dominated by bosh and we can't even do that
       properly.
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