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       #Post#: 53111--------------------------------------------------
       Idiotic kicking
   DIR By: guest465
       Date: November 20, 2020, 2:54 pm
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       Is costing us big time
       #Post#: 53117--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Idiotic kicking
   DIR By: raedarius
       Date: November 20, 2020, 2:59 pm
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       Is also our primary tactic, sadly.
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       Re: Idiotic kicking
   DIR By: guest465
       Date: November 20, 2020, 3:13 pm
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       Do they really think players drop catches ? One in about 15 I
       reckon
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       Re: Idiotic kicking
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: November 20, 2020, 3:19 pm
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       Horrible, negative tactic. At least when sarries and England do
       it they're good at it
       #Post#: 53217--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Idiotic kicking
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 20, 2020, 3:59 pm
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       It's not about dropping the catch, which will only happen every
       now and then. It's about not playing with the ball in your own
       half under defensive pressure and instead putting the opposition
       under defensive pressure in their half.
       Marcus Smith's low kicks trying to find gaps were awful, because
       they went straight to players who then had acres of space to run
       into, and he kept trying and failing to do them. I doubt he'll
       play that poorly again, it was very out of character.
       #Post#: 53318--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Idiotic kicking
   DIR By: Jus-Quin-Time
       Date: November 22, 2020, 9:06 am
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       Just watched the Wasps v Bristol game.  Neither team kicked the
       ball away.  Both teams kept the ball in hand and recycled or
       offloaded it to create spaces and mismatches.  The Bristol No 9
       was excellent in finding gaps through quick play.
       It was good rugby and it was refreshing to see the ball going
       through hands.  In many respects I could see a style of play
       reminiscent of Quins from about 5 seasons ago.
       #Post#: 53319--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Idiotic kicking
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: November 22, 2020, 9:51 am
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       It’s meant to be so as not to play the game in your own half
       That being said we tend to kick straight into a waiting
       speedsters arms who runs in straight back into our half
       Wasn’t it   Einstein who said the mark of an idiot is trying the
       same thing over and over but expecting a different result
       #Post#: 53320--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Idiotic kicking
   DIR By: Albig
       Date: November 22, 2020, 10:33 am
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       Kicking game is a very good tactic.
       Issue we have is our kicking is not spot on enough or chase poor
       or when in oppo half attack is not accurate enough.
       Tactics are spot on and best teams kick a lot!
       #Post#: 53321--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Idiotic kicking
   DIR By: raedarius
       Date: November 22, 2020, 10:34 am
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       --- Quote from: SiB link ---
       >
       > It’s meant to be so as not to play the game in your own half
       > That being said we tend to kick straight into a waiting
       speedsters arms who runs in straight back into our half
       >
       > Wasn’t it Eisenstein who said the mark of an idiot is trying
       the same thing over and over but expecting a different result
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No, but he did direct 'Battleship Potemkin'.
       #Post#: 53324--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Idiotic kicking
   DIR By: Jus-Quin-Time
       Date: November 22, 2020, 12:11 pm
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       --- Quote from: Albig link ---
       >
       >
       > Tactics are spot on and best teams kick a lot!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       ...and the better teams employ a range of tactics.  Tactical
       kicking to gain ground, the occasional up and under and having
       the skills to pass the ball through hands after repetitive
       recycling.  We saw that today in the Bristol/Wasps game.
       Poor teams limit their game to one tactic, such as kicking the
       ball away, as a means of obscuring their limited attacking and
       handling skills.  Quins is such a team right now.  Eventually
       the effort of repeated defensive sets took its toll as players
       tired physically and psychologically.
       Still. in perspective it was only one game and perhaps Gustard
       was looking to get the foundations of the defence in place
       before developing a more expansive game.  We live in hope.
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