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Re: Quins V Exeter
DIR By: never sleep
Date: November 20, 2020, 4:31 pm
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For me, there are two areas to work on.
The fitness levels are not right. Hence the decline at 60
minutes.
The teamwork is not there.
So, get the team running up and down the stands for a while and
then organise some team building activities
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Re: Quins V Exeter
DIR By: Comet
Date: November 20, 2020, 5:20 pm
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--- Quote from: never sleep link ---
>
> For me, there are two areas to work on.
> The fitness levels are not right. Hence the decline at 60
minutes.
> The teamwork is not there.
>
> Good points, I pretty much agree with this. In my opinion,
the teamwork was there for a while but it cannot go missing the
way it did. Likewise, the fitness was great but then fell off a
cliff. Both issues are linked to mentality. We immediately went
from being very competitive to throwing in the towel, hence the
savage scoreline.
>
> Also, we have just used up our normal scoreline for when Irish
visit. What will we do in that game now???!!!
>
> So, get the team running up and down the stands for a while
and then organise some team building activities
>
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Re: Quins V Exeter
DIR By: Rocker
Date: November 20, 2020, 5:53 pm
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I rather feared that would be the result. We were absolutely
hammered 😢 yes the scoreline made it look worse than it
was worth the late scores but we only had 1 or 2 chances and we
fluffed them. Earle was dreadful, Botta was possibly worse....
Our kicking game was dreadful, kick chase didn't work, hardly
ever found grass, scrum was better with Kerrod, line out worked
well in attack and defence. Hard to be too critical of our
defence against the pick and goo when so many other clubs can't
defend it either.
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Re: Quins V Exeter
DIR By: Dibden
Date: November 21, 2020, 1:25 am
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Average coach average mid table team.End of.
Care and Brown in decline.
We can expect the standard mixed bag of performances-that’s the
Harlequins way!
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Re: Quins V Exeter
DIR By: honkytonk
Date: November 21, 2020, 2:01 am
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Before the game, I expected nothing. Players missing or not
that Exeter side is still the best in the league,
however.......that was very very frustrating.
Defensively, I thought we were ok. Mistake for the first try
but that aside we were solid. All the problems really started
through penalties, we know what Exeter can do from the LO, they
do it for fun. Our maul defence in general is not great so,
DONT KEEP GIVING AWAY STUPID PENS!!! Stop that and the issue of
our maul defence does not matter as much.
Attack was what puzzled me tbh. If the plan is to kick, you
need to execute it much much better. Very poor kicking last
night. When we do run, there seems to be no flat passing into
runners, its all backwards to players standing still. We are
giving the defence too much time to set. We attack on the back
foot. Is this Nevs area??
PG has a lot of thinking to do. Hes not the only one. I still
cant say I have seen any improvement from the scrum since Jones
has been involved. LO puzzles me a bit also. We had a go at
their LO early on and it seemed to go ok, then we stopped!! The
coaches at fault for the game plan, the players at fault for the
execution. The result will not define our season, but it was a
pretty underwhelming start
Re Care, agree that he prob should have come off. I would say
there is depth there but yesterday we had 1 SH injured, 1 on int
duty and 1 who has not arrived. 5th choice chap on the bench,
yet to play a single min, tbh it was unlikely he would get on.
Northmore and Esturheizen both had decent games for me, not sure
why some think not? Earle was poor, as was Botta (which is a
shame, as after the restart he was playing well). Not a fan of
Young, tried to be optimistic but he is just not a Prem lock for
me. Dombrandt was quiet, totally outplayed by Simmonds. I dont
think we will see him near the England side for a while
Slightly off topic but hey. Watching last night (and looking at
the squad as a whole), we have no real out and out pace. We have
a few players that can shift a bit, but no rubbish of a shovel
types like Walker. Not that it means much, just an observation.
In general I always remember us having a some real pace, OLH,
Walker, Old Chisholm (when he was younger) as the recent ones
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Re: Quins V Exeter
DIR By: Monte
Date: November 21, 2020, 3:07 am
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The most depressing thing for me is that Gussie is quoted as
saying after the game in the Tel. ‘That was s... we thought
before the match that we had a very good game plan’
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Re: Quins V Exeter
DIR By: Albig
Date: November 21, 2020, 3:20 am
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Thought issue for us was in attack...the key axis of 8-9-10 had
indifferent games for there level of ability.
I think people are being harsh on front five. Earle still looks
off the pace since his 12 months plus out of the game. Before
his knee he was a star. He will get this back!
Let’s see how we do against others, let’s not base a team’s
performance against Exeter when we are no where near this team
at the moment and let’s be honest not many clubs are!
Forget scoreline as it not not a 30 point drubbing
performance.....
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Re: Quins V Exeter
DIR By: Bonesbarnes
Date: November 21, 2020, 4:28 am
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First thing Monday morning before he puts his boots on Botta
must be sent to a corner to write out 100 lines. "When I'm on
the ground I'm out of the game".
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Re: Quins V Exeter
DIR By: euroquin
Date: November 21, 2020, 4:52 am
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Botta and Baldwin are deeply underwhelming for the number of
international caps they have. And Louw did little but lean on
rucks all night. Our starting front row was really not great.
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Re: Quins V Exeter
DIR By: SquareQuin
Date: November 21, 2020, 6:18 am
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My assessment - for what worth.
Exeter brutally efficient. Attractive? Not sure. In parts, yes.
But every member of their team knew there role. Well trained.
Few mistakes. When the opportunities came, they took them
Quins played well in first half. Don't seem to have the
togetherness of Exeter. Not so well organised. Kicking was at
times brilliant. At times, pretty aimless. Above all, too many
mistakes and gave away too many penalties. Frustrating,
particularly when they worked so hard to get into the good areas
of the pitch.
Bristol now seem to be the team playing the old Harlequins way.
Exeter, Saracens and Wasps all have a level of "dog" and
efficiency to be competing at the top. Sale getting there
quickly. Quins have a lot still to do!
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