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#Post#: 51774--------------------------------------------------
Re: Champions Cup Final
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: October 20, 2020, 11:35 am
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I would expect that EPCR will keep Wasps as one of the Tier 1
seeds. After all, they have already made it to the final, hence
are going to finish either 1st or 2nd. Bristol are defeated
SF-ists, so will be classed as a Tier 2 seed even if they pay in
the final. As for the final itself, *if* Bristol have to replace
Wasps, I hope that they don't put the trophy & title on the
outcome. Bristol were well beaten by Wasps. Sure, have a "final"
as the end of season bash, but Exeter should be crowned as
Champions if Wasps are unable to participate.
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Re: Champions Cup Final
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: October 20, 2020, 11:46 am
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--- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
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> I would expect that EPCR will keep Wasps as one of the Tier 1
seeds. After all, they have already made it to the final, hence
are going to finish either 1st or 2nd. Bristol are defeated
SF-ists, so will be classed as a Tier 2 seed even if they pay in
the final. As for the final itself, *if* Bristol have to replace
Wasps, I hope that they don't put the trophy & title on the
outcome. Bristol were well beaten by Wasps. Sure, have a "final"
as the end of season bash, but Exeter should be crowned as
Champions if Wasps are unable to participate.
>
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I'm not sure that works. AFAIK if Bristol replace Wasps they
will be contending for the Premiership. However, is the seeding
done including the play-offs or just on league position anyway?
#Post#: 51777--------------------------------------------------
Re: Champions Cup Final
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: October 20, 2020, 12:12 pm
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Actually, I think you may be right and wrong! IIRC, the winner
of the Premiership is usually classed as top seed from their
competition, but the rest end up based on the table. So, if
Bristol were to win, they could be in Tier 1, but if they lose,
they's remain in Tier 2.
#Post#: 51778--------------------------------------------------
Re: Champions Cup Final
DIR By: Mayor West
Date: October 20, 2020, 12:29 pm
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> I started my reply to JG with "...its a bit dogs and cats" and
finished it with "its a simple comparison": I know its not the
same, but there are similarities.
>
> Using average salaries takes out the squad size differences.
>
> The number of games played is the main difference that I can
see: we get ~ 30-odd games a season with cups before knock out
stage; Football Championship, Leagues 1 & 2 play 46 games before
any knockout cup games: that's roughly 40-50% more then a
Premiership rugby side - that would surely make a difference,
provided you can keep the attendances high - to the P/L line in
a club's annual accounts.
>
>
>
> But that is not a likely scenario in rugby, unless you get
bigger squads with more depth, which then increases the salary
payments even further...
>
> Perhaps if you made rugby union a 12 man game - no back row -
same size pitch and 5 subs, 30 minutes each way. Faster, more
tries as more space, greater entertainment...(holds head in
hands/shame and waits for neutron bomb to detonate in NE Surrey
area...)
>
>
> ;) :o ??? :P :-\ :D
>
>
> Call it 13 a side, 40mins each way and I think you’ve got a
deal. Up north anyway.
>
>
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Re: Champions Cup Final
DIR By: Yareet
Date: October 20, 2020, 12:56 pm
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--- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
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> Actually, I think you may be right and wrong! IIRC, the winner
of the Premiership is usually classed as top seed from their
competition, but the rest end up based on the table. So, if
Bristol were to win, they could be in Tier 1, but if they lose,
they's remain in Tier 2.
>
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The rules I saw had the 1st and 2nd seed as the league winner
and the beaten finalist respectively
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Re: Champions Cup Final
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: October 21, 2020, 3:18 am
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well, it's all moot now anyway, as Wasps have been given the all
clear to play in the final.
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Re: Champions Cup Final
DIR By: MadMax
Date: October 21, 2020, 6:09 am
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--- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
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> well, it's all moot now anyway, as Wasps have been given the
all clear to play in the final.
>
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Hopefully mute as well :)
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Re: Champions Cup Final
DIR By: Saintquin
Date: October 21, 2020, 8:53 am
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--- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
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> well, it's all moot now anyway, as Wasps have been given the
all clear to play in the final.
>
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I'm really please they're good to go ahead as they've earned the
right to play in the final.
Now I just hope Exeter stuff them out of sight! [emoji4]
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Re: Champions Cup Final
DIR By: Boonie
Date: October 23, 2020, 5:14 am
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Referee change as well - Maxwell-Keys in as Barnsey has tested
positive!
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