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       Re: Champions Cup Final
   DIR By: RocQuin
       Date: October 18, 2020, 2:29 am
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       It was indeed a good final, hard fought by both sides, but on
       balance the right team took the trophy.
       My viewing was irritated by the massive banners of the cheating
       previous cup holders in the stands opposite the cameras, surely
       that was not necessary.
       #Post#: 51706--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Champions Cup Final
   DIR By: Domestos
       Date: October 18, 2020, 3:55 am
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       --- Quote from: RocQuin link ---
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       > My viewing was irritated by the massive banners of the
       cheating previous cup holders in the stands opposite the
       cameras, surely that was not necessary.
       >
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       I didn't see those banners to which you refer, but do you think
       that just for once you could stop droning on, and on, and on
       about blasted Saracens?!
       #Post#: 51707--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Champions Cup Final
   DIR By: honkytonk
       Date: October 18, 2020, 4:10 am
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
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       > And well done to Maunder and Hidalgo-Clyne. Two scrum halves
       who many on here thought weren't good enough to be back ups to
       Care. You are now European champions.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Re SHC, I thought it was more a case that we already had two SH
       signed up, and there was no way he was going to hang around as
       3rd choice for us.  I would have happily kept him but do not
       blame him for not staying (or the club not offering him a deal).
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       Re: Champions Cup Final
   DIR By: toast
       Date: October 18, 2020, 6:37 am
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       IMHO, best CC final of the past decade.
       Exeter deserved this and will hopefully complete a double next
       weekend - Well run club, supportive owner, friendly and
       passionate supporters, with great playing and coaching teams!
       #Post#: 51714--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Champions Cup Final
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: October 18, 2020, 6:59 am
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       As others have said one of the best finals for a very long time
       Could have gone either way but well done Chiefs
       Also does go to show that you can spend up to UK salary cap nd
       compete at the top table
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       Re: Champions Cup Final
   DIR By: RocQuin
       Date: October 18, 2020, 9:24 am
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       --- Quote from: Domestos link ---
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       > I didn't see those banners to which you refer, but do you
       think that just for once you could stop droning on, and on, and
       on about blasted Saracens?!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No, because they have still got those trophies and titles with
       their tarnished name against them. Obviously the trophies cannot
       be awarded retrospectively, but something like when Lance
       Armstrong was stripped of titles gained by cheating would be
       better in the history books, rather than allow cheats to go down
       in history as the best club ever etc etc.
       #Post#: 51719--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Champions Cup Final
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: October 18, 2020, 10:21 am
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       That's the spirit Baggie, they were just there and did nothing
       so let's not recognise what they now have in their trophy
       cabinet. And next week they'll go past Care with a
       prem/champions cup double.
       I wasn't saying that the club got rid of them just pointing out
       that some on here underrate players who go on and win things
       elsewhere.
       Anyway, well done to them and the Chiefs.
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       Re: Champions Cup Final
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: October 18, 2020, 2:38 pm
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       --- Quote from: RocQuin link ---
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       > No, because they have still got those trophies and titles with
       their tarnished name against them. Obviously the trophies cannot
       be awarded retrospectively, but something like when Lance
       Armstrong was stripped of titles gained by cheating would be
       better in the history books, rather than allow cheats to go down
       in history as the best club ever etc etc.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So which EPCR rule did they break?
       #Post#: 51721--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Champions Cup Final
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: October 18, 2020, 2:59 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       > Ring-fencing doesn't have to be in perpetuity, but the
       Premiership is putting actual proper teams with proper crowds
       and proper grounds in financial difficulties, let alone the
       minnows in the lower tiers.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Out of interest, how would you see the Premiership/clubs/players
       overcome this scenario?
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       Re: Champions Cup Final
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: October 18, 2020, 3:11 pm
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       I can't say I really remember people on here saying that Maunder
       wasn't good enough, but then I don't really remember him being
       talked of as a possibility.
       SHC did pretty well in the few games he played for us. A few
       decent performances, and I think a couple of average / poor
       ones. I'd happily have kept him on but I don't think it was ever
       on the cards. I'm pleased to see he seems settled and is doing
       well for them. We've done pretty well with Steele I reckon -
       just Llandajo who's a bit disappointing.
       Anyway, good to see two English teams doing well in Europe.
       Bristol I'd say are less of feel good story. They've largely
       just thrown money at it. I know they've found some gems along
       the way, but they've also to a certain extent bought in a team.
       Their social media guy annoys me too, as does the fawning over
       them by the likes of Flatman & Co. Having said that, they play
       some really attractive rugby - I'd love to see us put in
       performances like that on a regular basis.
       It'll be interesting to see what that performance does for
       Russell's Lions chances. I'm sure he'll go, and I think Sexton
       should and will miss out. Russell, Farrell and Biggar seems
       likely. With players like Russell and Cipriani, when it comes
       off it looks great and it seems they can single-handedly win a
       game. On the other hand, when it goes wrong, they can more or
       less lose a game on their own too. That's why I like players
       like Ford, Smith and Simmonds - they have the ability to create
       something special but don't tend to regularly go for the really
       high risk plays. They're a happy medium between the likes of
       Russell/Cirpiani and Farrell/Biggar.
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