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       #Post#: 51350--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Credibility draining away from Premiership's bungling
       leadership
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: October 7, 2020, 11:42 am
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       You are also not 100% correct. I wrote 'claim' as they didn't
       actually publish the team sheet on Saturday.
       So, we will never know if they could have put a team out on
       Sunday (although I suspect they could have)
       #Post#: 51353--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Credibility draining away from Premiership's bungling
       leadership
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: October 7, 2020, 1:28 pm
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       --- Quote from: MadMax link ---
       >
       > Don't forget if it wasn't for the Daily Mail the Cheats would
       still be cheating. I would not criticise their rugby coverage.
       (Unless you are a Saracens apologist obviously).
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not sure that would have been the case. The Mail did do stonking
       work but others were over it as well and it still would have
       come out. Anyway, PRL knew about it and chose to do nothing so
       I'd like to see an investigation into them.
       Anyway, back on to the subject matter, I agree that they should
       have been forced to name their match day 23 at the time and then
       lock those 23 down in a secure bubble and as long as that 23
       were still fit and healthy, play tonight. If not or not 23
       players, it could have been forfeit there and then. A bit of
       kidology from Sale me thinks and why haven't we seen the results
       of the RFU and PRL investigation, or will that be swept under
       the carpet now the game is forfeit?
       Let's also understand more about these rumours of a celebration
       party after the cup final. If there are no pictures doing the
       rounds on SM, then it must have been a Sale sanctioned event
       with no phones, which means they were economical with the truth
       again.
       #Post#: 51354--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Credibility draining away from Premiership's bungling
       leadership
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: October 7, 2020, 2:49 pm
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       If it was an internal party though, surely under the rules in
       place at the time, it would have been okay. It would be no
       different from the Quins players having beers after the Tigers
       game
       #Post#: 51358--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Credibility draining away from Premiership's bungling
       leadership
   DIR By: Bayernquin
       Date: October 7, 2020, 3:19 pm
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       Beers? Surely lager tops! 😜🍺
       #Post#: 51362--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Credibility draining away from Premiership's bungling
       leadership
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: October 7, 2020, 4:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
       >
       >
       > Let's also understand more about these rumours of a
       celebration party after the cup final. If there are no pictures
       doing the rounds on SM, then it must have been a Sale sanctioned
       event with no phones, which means they were economical with the
       truth again.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Out of interest, would you consider the possibility that it
       didn’t happen?
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       Re: Credibility draining away from Premiership's bungling
       leadership
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: October 8, 2020, 3:25 am
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       Yes Yareet I absolutely would consider that. If you've done
       nothing wrong, you should be able to prove that. I'm so
       frustrated with the lack of honesty that has happened in our
       game in the last 12 months and clubs now need to be held to
       account.
       If all the rules were followed and Sale were just unlucky to go
       from 2 to 19 cases in a few days then that should come out from
       the investigation and with all of our sympathies at losing out
       on Top 4.
       If not, however, then I'd like to see a sanction against next
       season, not a fine, so that clubs and players can see that
       attitudes have to change.
       #Post#: 51373--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Credibility draining away from Premiership's bungling
       leadership
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: October 8, 2020, 3:41 am
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
       >
       > Yes Yareet I absolutely would consider that. If you've done
       nothing wrong, you should be able to prove that. I'm so
       frustrated with the lack of honesty that has happened in our
       game in the last 12 months and clubs now need to be held to
       account.
       >
       > If all the rules were followed and Sale were just unlucky to
       go from 2 to 19 cases in a few days then that should come out
       from the investigation and with all of our sympathies at losing
       out on Top 4.
       >
       > If not, however, then I'd like to see a sanction against next
       season, not a fine, so that clubs and players can see that
       attitudes have to change.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So you’re ignoring the lack of evidence of any wrongdoing then?
       Guilty until proven innocent.
       Any particular reason you don’t believe the official story? We
       had a false negative, contact training took place and that
       caused an outbreak.
       At the moment I have seen no evidence to suggest anything other
       than this was the case. Hopefully the investigations will
       exonerate us (if not we deserve to have the book thrown at us)
       but I genuinely don’t understand the immediate accusations and
       desire to believe unsubstantiated (and much refuted) rumours.
       #Post#: 51374--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Credibility draining away from Premiership's bungling
       leadership
   DIR By: Domestos
       Date: October 8, 2020, 3:43 am
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
       >
       >
       > If all the rules were followed and Sale were just unlucky to
       go from 2 to 19 cases in a few days then that should come out
       from the investigation and with all of our sympathies at losing
       out on Top 4.
       >
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sale unlucky? Well, I suppose Steve diamond might prefer to see
       it that way!
       Another 8! Hang on, I've run out of fingers and toes. I think we
       are up to - 27 - is it?
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       #Post#: 51379--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Credibility draining away from Premiership's bungling
       leadership
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: October 8, 2020, 4:29 am
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       --- Quote from: Yareet link ---
       >
       > So you’re ignoring the lack of evidence of any wrongdoing
       then? Guilty until proven innocent.
       >
       > Any particular reason you don’t believe the official story? We
       had a false negative, contact training took place and that
       caused an outbreak.
       >
       > At the moment I have seen no evidence to suggest anything
       other than this was the case. Hopefully the investigations will
       exonerate us (if not we deserve to have the book thrown at us)
       but I genuinely don’t understand the immediate accusations and
       desire to believe unsubstantiated (and much refuted) rumours.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       How does only 1 club manage to get a false negative? Were they
       using different testing facilities? To me its the sheer number
       of cases that betrays a smoking gun.
       #Post#: 51398--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Credibility draining away from Premiership's bungling
       leadership
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: October 8, 2020, 8:19 am
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       You are right Yareet, innocent till proved otherwise. And we are
       in agreement, the investigation will out the truth and then
       we'll know and can move on.
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