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       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: September 25, 2020, 4:34 pm
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       Premiership fans crisis: Club-by-club guide
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       > A well run and well-supported club that recently staged a
       successful test event that saw 2,700 fans attend Twickenham
       Stoop. Quins may nevertheless be forced to call on the riches of
       co-owner Duncan Saville when the cash runs out.
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       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: September 26, 2020, 10:13 am
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       Worcester owners advise Sports Minister on how fans can return
       to stadiums
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       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: SwindonQuin
       Date: September 27, 2020, 9:21 am
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       Out of interest does anyone know the value of Quins an current
       debt?
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       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: honkytonk
       Date: September 27, 2020, 9:29 am
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       Worth a watch, mentions Big Game next Spring maybe
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       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: SwindonQuin
       Date: September 27, 2020, 10:43 am
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       Interesting video, I don't agree with the comments that Central
       government should prop up pro rugby, when it went professional
       it became a business. Other businesses are suffering and going
       bust, just because it's rugby doesn't make it special im afraid.
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       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: September 28, 2020, 12:48 pm
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       --- Quote from: SwindonQuin link ---
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       > Interesting video, I don't agree with the comments that
       Central government should prop up pro rugby, when it went
       professional it became a business. Other businesses are
       suffering and going bust, just because it's rugby doesn't make
       it special im afraid.
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       It was a business long before it became professional; just a
       business that didn't pay its principal talent.
       Other businesses are suffering and going bust, but what does
       make rugby (and most other professional sport) "special" is that
       it is being treated differently by the Government than other
       businesses. Outside of the likes of soccer, F1 and possibly
       cricket, where TV revenue is the dominant source of income, most
       professional sports rely heavily on matchday revenue.
       Even though rugby has shown that it can successfully run
       socially distanced matches with supporter attendance, it's not
       being allowed to do so because of Government policy - and in
       contrast to pubs, cafes and cinemas, which are being allowed to
       have the public back in with restrictions.
       I haven't had the time to look at whether there's a good reason
       for that, but the point is that by imposing restrictions on
       rugby as a business that it is not imposing on other, similar
       businesses, the Government is significantly worsening rugby's
       financial situation and potentially jeopardising its existence.
       Other sports are in the same boat, but rugby is one of the ones
       most severely affected by the restriction.
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       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: Simquin
       Date: September 28, 2020, 6:41 pm
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       Sorry, all this talk of selling the Stoop. I thought it is
       actually held in trust separate from the club itself?
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       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: dr_miles
       Date: September 29, 2020, 2:15 am
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       --- Quote from: poorfour link ---
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       > It was a business long before it became professional; just a
       business that didn't pay its principal talent.
       >
       > Other businesses are suffering and going bust, but what does
       make rugby (and most other professional sport) "special" is that
       it is being treated differently by the Government than other
       businesses. Outside of the likes of soccer, F1 and possibly
       cricket, where TV revenue is the dominant source of income, most
       professional sports rely heavily on matchday revenue.
       >
       > Even though rugby has shown that it can successfully run
       socially distanced matches with supporter attendance, it's not
       being allowed to do so because of Government policy - and in
       contrast to pubs, cafes and cinemas, which are being allowed to
       have the public back in with restrictions.
       >
       > I haven't had the time to look at whether there's a good
       reason for that, but the point is that by imposing restrictions
       on rugby as a business that it is not imposing on other, similar
       businesses, the Government is significantly worsening rugby's
       financial situation and potentially jeopardising its existence.
       Other sports are in the same boat, but rugby is one of the ones
       most severely affected by the restriction.
       >
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       A million people around the world have died because of this
       disease, and that’s with all the restrictions in place. There
       won’t be crowds at rugby for a minimum of 6 months, but that
       could stretch to a couple of years. How long would you propose
       that the government support any sports? 6 months, a year?
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       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: Fursty
       Date: September 29, 2020, 2:20 am
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       Far far more than a million people around the world will die
       early because of the economic damage caused by overly aggressive
       lockdowns.
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       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: honkytonk
       Date: September 29, 2020, 2:22 am
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       29 countries in Europe are allowing fans into sports (in some
       shape or form), and more around the world.
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