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       #Post#: 50190--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: SwindonQuin
       Date: September 23, 2020, 1:00 pm
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       If push came to shove at Quins they could sell off the training
       ground for houses, then just use the stadium for training as
       well as games, it would reduce overheads and buy the club more
       time for things to go back to normal.
       I think a few clubs may go for a plan like this.
       #Post#: 50192--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: Adrian
       Date: September 23, 2020, 2:48 pm
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       --- Quote from: SwindonQuin link ---
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       > If push came to shove at Quins they could sell off the
       training ground for houses, then just use the stadium for
       training as well as games, it would reduce overheads and buy the
       club more time for things to go back to normal.
       > I think a few clubs may go for a plan like this.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I didn't think we owned the training ground.
       #Post#: 50193--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: Quinston Churchill
       Date: September 23, 2020, 3:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: A222Quin link ---
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       > It's inevitable. I'd like to think they're starting with this
       now.
       >
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       I imagine they are. I really hope that there isn’t more talk of
       players threatening strike action. I would like to think they
       might realise that at this point, their livelihood is at stake.
       #Post#: 50195--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: Aha!
       Date: September 23, 2020, 3:42 pm
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       --- Quote from: DOK link ---
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       > The point of handing over the money is to support the club and
       keep it in existence surely? Seems to me that is a good enough
       return on your investment?
       >
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       Each to their own, but not for me. I have a strong emotional
       relationship with Quins, but paying for my ticket is a purely
       commercial relationship so I will not be donating money.
       Covid has revealed commercial problems with rugby that most
       other sports don’t share: the product is incomprehensible to
       non-fans who are now needed to fill the funding gap that we fans
       filled with our tickets.
       If the game of rugby was invented today, it wouldn’t start from
       this place. It may be time for Darwinism to take its course and
       a new rugby to fill its niche.
       I’d love Quins to be the first name on this new clean sheet, but
       I’m no investor in the current commercial flop and the dud
       WRU/RFU set-up that Quins are beholden to.
       #Post#: 50196--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: Jedzi
       Date: September 23, 2020, 3:51 pm
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       --- Quote from: AdrianB link ---
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       > I didn't think we owned the training ground.
       >
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       Surrey Sports Park is owned by the University of Surrey.  Quins
       may well own, or have a decent lease on the building that they
       use on a daily basis.
       #Post#: 50197--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: Adrian
       Date: September 23, 2020, 3:53 pm
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       Indeed, so can't sell for housing as suggested by SwindonQuin
       #Post#: 50199--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: sussexquin
       Date: September 23, 2020, 7:32 pm
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       Didn't Quins sell off the land behind the DHL stands for the
       housing now there?
       #Post#: 50200--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: Harleys Evil Step Mum
       Date: September 24, 2020, 1:56 am
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       Perhaps this hastens the laying of an artificial pitch?
       Generates money doesn't it?? Sell off whatever land they might
       own elsewhere....train/play/hire out at the Stoop.
       #Post#: 50201--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: September 24, 2020, 2:30 am
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       --- Quote from: Harleys Evil Step Mum link ---
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       > Perhaps this hastens the laying of an artificial pitch?
       Generates money doesn't it?? Sell off whatever land they might
       own elsewhere....train/play/hire out at the Stoop.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I believe there is still an rfu moratorium on artificial pitches
       #Post#: 50203--------------------------------------------------
       Re: First club to fold?
   DIR By: Jedzi
       Date: September 24, 2020, 2:55 am
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       --- Quote from: Yareet link ---
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       > I believe there is still an rfu moratorium on artificial
       pitches
       >
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       That's probably exactly the kind of thing they'll have to look
       at to help clubs survive.  While there are mixed views on them
       as a playing surface, World Rugby, the RFU and the Premiership
       will have to be flexible on things like this for financial
       reasons.
       There are two articles in the Guardian this morning about the
       perilous state of rugby:
  HTML https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/sep/23/wasps-chief-warns-deep-cuts-without-government-support
  HTML https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2020/sep/23/from-top-to-bottom-rugby-union-is-now-staring-into-the-abyss
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