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       #Post#: 47084--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale game
   DIR By: Somardino
       Date: August 15, 2020, 4:11 pm
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       I’m still very much hoping all works out for the best with
       Clifford. If he stays, and with Kenningham and Trenholm coming
       through the Academy, I don’t think we’ll sign another back
       rower. Depending on how things work out we might still need to
       spend some biggish money elsewhere.
       I do have a suspicion that we might see a bit more of Will Evans
       in the back row. There’s just a little voice at the back of my
       head telling me there’s a useful heads-up openside there who
       just needs some consistent game time to start to shine.
       #Post#: 47085--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale game
   DIR By: Somardino
       Date: August 15, 2020, 4:29 pm
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       TH is looking really interesting after all the disappointment of
       losing Kyle. I was genuinely surprised by how well Kerrod played
       and he definitely looks to have the bit between his teeth.
       Collier came on late after what can’t have been much training
       post the birth of his son and demolished the Sale scrum. I’ve a
       feeling Van Dyk might catch some people out when he gets some
       game time, Trenier is presumably working to get himself fit and
       we now have three serious TH prospects in the Academy...
       Louw had best arrive soon or he might struggle to get a game!
       #Post#: 47086--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale game
   DIR By: The Absolute Quintet
       Date: August 15, 2020, 4:29 pm
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       Agree, with the new interpretations of the breakdown, fast to
       the breakdown is going to be key. Evans is that Neil Back kind
       of a 7 which has been almost extinguished from the game in
       recent years.
       #Post#: 47088--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale game
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: August 15, 2020, 6:23 pm
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       --- Quote from: Somardino link ---
       >
       > TH is looking really interesting after all the disappointment
       of losing Kyle. I was genuinely surprised by how well Kerrod
       played and he definitely looks to have the bit between his
       teeth. Collier came on late after what can’t have been much
       training post the birth of his son and demolished the Sale
       scrum. I’ve a feeling Van Dyk might catch some people out when
       he gets some game time, Trenier is presumably working to get
       himself fit and we now have three serious TH prospects in the
       Academy...
       > Louw had best arrive soon or he might struggle to get a game!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I was thinking something similar. Kerrod has really developed
       his game, Collier seems to be back to full fitness and with Louw
       arriving it gives us a really strong selection of THs who we can
       hope will push each other hard for the 3 and 18 shirts. We lose
       Kyle’s ability in attack, but on Friday’s evidence we finally
       have the basics working, and if we can keep offloading the way
       we did on a couple of occasions yesterday we will give Smith
       plenty of options to make holes in defences.
       #Post#: 47089--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale game
   DIR By: dogger
       Date: August 15, 2020, 7:25 pm
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       --- Quote from: Quinston Churchill link ---
       >
       >
       > Landajo worked well with Smith last night. He made mostly good
       decisions and let Smith run the game from 10. DC doesn’t always
       do that - I often feel like it’s a weird competition between him
       and Smith re. who is actually running the game. When Smith is
       getting less ball, he’s more likely to try to force it, whereas
       last night’s game shows that he’s more than capable of managing
       a tight game.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Very well put QC
       #Post#: 47092--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale game
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: August 16, 2020, 5:47 am
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       Not disappointed in Kyle going, thoughT our scrum dominated
       theirs most of the game
       Think Kyle resulted in 1 or maybe w penalties for Bristol
       yesterday, same with Gabs going, no real loss as enough strength
       in his position
       Going to be very different at Allianz next week, and then a
       short turn around before Worc game, next couple of games are
       really going to show where we could go, and let’s hope the saga
       contingent arrives just at the right time
       #Post#: 47093--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale game
   DIR By: Fursty
       Date: August 16, 2020, 6:04 am
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       When I saw Brown, Earle and Ashton lining up on Friday night I
       realised that I have absolutely no qualms with Ibitoye leaving,
       with Murley, Greene  and Morris covering the back 3 we’re pretty
       well stocked there.
       #Post#: 47094--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale game
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: August 16, 2020, 6:13 am
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       Have to say I'm not as sad at Kyle leaving as I thought. Don't
       get me wrong, I wish the lad all the best but actually recently
       he wasn't really making the impact he had initially. We didn't
       see him scampering down the pitch showing an unlikely turn of
       speed for a prop like he used to and while he popped up in the
       line occasionally, his passing wasn't really different to other
       forwards. I think maybe other teams had worked him out better
       and while I think perhaps he still has great things to offer a
       team I think we'll be fine without him.
       #Post#: 47096--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale game
   DIR By: dinsdale
       Date: August 16, 2020, 6:29 am
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       --- Quote from: DOK link ---
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       > Have to say I'm not as sad at Kyle leaving as I thought. Don't
       get me wrong, I wish the lad all the best but actually recently
       he wasn't really making the impact he had initially. We didn't
       see him scampering down the pitch showing an unlikely turn of
       speed for a prop like he used to and while he popped up in the
       line occasionally, his passing wasn't really different to other
       forwards. I think maybe other teams had worked him out better
       and while I think perhaps he still has great things to offer a
       team I think we'll be fine without him.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I really don't agree that his passing and running isn't
       different to other forwards.  He's in a class of his own.  If
       we're not using him properly, that's our issue, not his.
       I would have liked him to stay but not at the money that Bristol
       were reportedly offering.  I've said before, good isn't the same
       as good value.
       Indications from the Sale game were encouraging though.  The
       newer forwards all showed well against what's supposedly a
       strong pack.
       #Post#: 47097--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sale game
   DIR By: Saintquin
       Date: August 16, 2020, 6:52 am
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       --- Quote from: Fursty link ---
       >
       > When I saw Brown, Earle and Ashton lining up on Friday night I
       realised that I have absolutely no qualms with Ibitoye leaving,
       with Murley, Greene  and Morris covering the back 3 we’re pretty
       well stocked there.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'll give you Earle but, Aston is very much coming to the end of
       his career. The same can be said of Brown and I don't the he and
       Ibitoye have anything to or there a need to compare.
       I know Gabs is wanting on a couple of things but show me a
       player at his age and experience who hasn't!
       Don't get me wrong though as I thought our backs look like they
       could give any side a scare if giving the chance!
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