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Re: Arlecchino
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: August 2, 2020, 6:29 am
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raedarius its symbology. Read into it what you will. I choose to
be positive.
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Re: Arlecchino
DIR By: raedarius
Date: August 2, 2020, 6:33 am
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--- Quote from: Quinky link ---
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> Why does it need to tell anyone anything about Native American
culture?
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Deadly described it as a celebration of that culture and I was
responding to that point.
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Re: Arlecchino
DIR By: raedarius
Date: August 2, 2020, 6:41 am
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--- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
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> raedarius its symbology. Read into it what you will. I choose
to be positive.
>
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Fair enough.
The food stalls and bars at Sandy Park are called (among
others):
BUFFALO
BISON
TOMAHAWK
APACHE
MOHAWK
CHEYENNE
POW WOW
WIGWAM
APACHE
CHUCK WAGON
COWBOY CANTEEN
MOHAWK
TOMAHAWK CANTEEN
(capitals due to copy/paste)
In terms of symbology, it's a celebration of cowboy films rather
than Native Americans (but I acknowledge that other
interpretations are available).
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Re: Arlecchino
DIR By: MadMax
Date: August 2, 2020, 6:46 am
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--- Quote from: never sleep link ---
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> I think Harlequins are okay in this debate. Is not like we
fans wear feathered headdresses or fezes.
>
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Mind you those diamond geezer trousers weren't clever were they?
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Re: Arlecchino
DIR By: Banstead Quin
Date: August 2, 2020, 7:10 am
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Love the OP on this, very clever and I in no way feel that
Exeter are mocking Native Americans. But there are also some who
do, mainly white people who have no marches to go on!
I believe from my school education (and not having access to the
right documents and not wishing to rely on Google/Wikipedia) the
word 'Chief' was first used by the Celtic tribes of Northern
Europe in Roman times and was associated with a tribe. When
Europeans started settling North America they just transplanted
the word to describe the head of the North American native
tribes. The Pumunky certainly didn't introduce themselves as a
'tribe' or their Head of as Chief. Those terms just got adopted
as an English way of referring to the Native Americans.
Waikato Chiefs use the emblem of an Easter Island looking bloke
holding a wooden beating stick. Are Maoris horrified at this? No
because it shows a symbol of power relative to their region.
Had Exeter used the emblem of a Celtic warlord, no one would
care and it would be more relative to their location, so the use
of a Native American is strange but certainly not as a figure of
derision.
Now, if Native Americans aren't happy and start marching on
Washington and rioting in the streets of America (for which they
would probably all be shot) as they are so outraged at what this
city in England is doing, then it might be time for a debate but
I think that is very unlikely.
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Re: Arlecchino
DIR By: Quintessential
Date: August 3, 2020, 11:20 am
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--- Quote from: Quinky link ---
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> This is what I find odd. What are the native Americans "on the
receiving end" of?
>
> If one listens to the "humour" of Jo Brand, one finds that she
often mocks and derides men.
>
> If you listen to what is claimed to be the "humour" of Nish
Kumar, he openly insults and mocks the usual victims - Brexit
voters, Tories etc.
>
> Why is one deemed to be hyper offensive when there is no
mocking or insults, yet the true vitriol is acceptable?
>
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Brexiters and Tories haven't (yet)faced a genocide where
Europeans wiped out ~100million indigenous people over 400years.
So there's that.
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Re: Arlecchino
DIR By: Quinky
Date: August 3, 2020, 11:22 am
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--- Quote from: Quintessential link ---
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> Brexiters and Tories haven't (yet)faced a genocide where
Europeans wiped out ~100million indigenous people over 400years.
>
> So there's that.
>
>
>
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Ah, I didn't realise that was the threshold that had to be
reached. Thanks for clarifying.
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Re: Arlecchino
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: August 3, 2020, 2:19 pm
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--- Quote from: Quintessential link ---
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> Brexiters and Tories haven't (yet)faced a genocide where
Europeans wiped out ~100million indigenous people over 400years.
>
> So there's that.
>
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Those pesky Europeans, AGAIN?
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