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       #Post#: 3851--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: August 24, 2018, 4:22 am
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       Really hope they drop this Game Changers thing soon. It's pretty
       embarrassing. Decent starting team. Hope the number of
       replacements dosn't turn the second half into a farce. Really
       looking forward to being back at the Stoop, which is certainly
       not something I thought I'd feel at the end of last season!
       #Post#: 3858--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: August 24, 2018, 4:52 am
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       --- Quote from: T-Bone link ---
       >
       > Really hope they drop this Game Changers thing soon. It's
       pretty embarrassing. Decent starting team. Hope the number of
       replacements dosn't turn the second half into a farce. Really
       looking forward to being back at the Stoop, which is certainly
       not something I thought I'd feel at the end of last season!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       To be fair, it's a pre season game, to test out combos etc -- I
       won't be surprised if we change the whole team for the second
       half.
       #Post#: 3860--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: August 24, 2018, 5:07 am
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       --- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
       >
       > [quote author=T-Bone link=topic=273.msg3851#msg3851
       date=1535102564]
       > Really hope they drop this Game Changers thing soon. It's
       pretty embarrassing. Decent starting team. Hope the number of
       replacements dosn't turn the second half into a farce. Really
       looking forward to being back at the Stoop, which is certainly
       not something I thought I'd feel at the end of last season!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       To be fair, it's a pre season game, to test out combos etc -- I
       won't be surprised if we change the whole team for the second
       half.
       [/quote]
       I appreciate that, and that people need game time, test out
       combos, etc. I just find that sometimes, in these sorts of games
       and some A games, they make so many changes that the game loses
       all sense of structure and it ends up being a pretty meaningless
       exercise. Oh well, still looking forward to it.
       #Post#: 3862--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: August 24, 2018, 5:26 am
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       --- Quote from: T-Bone link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Blucherquin link=topic=273.msg3858#msg3858
       date=1535104320]
       > [quote author=T-Bone link=topic=273.msg3851#msg3851
       date=1535102564]
       > Really hope they drop this Game Changers thing soon. It's
       pretty embarrassing. Decent starting team. Hope the number of
       replacements dosn't turn the second half into a farce. Really
       looking forward to being back at the Stoop, which is certainly
       not something I thought I'd feel at the end of last season!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       To be fair, it's a pre season game, to test out combos etc -- I
       won't be surprised if we change the whole team for the second
       half.
       [/quote]
       I appreciate that, and that people need game time, test out
       combos, etc. I just find that sometimes, in these sorts of games
       and some A games, they make so many changes that the game loses
       all sense of structure and it ends up being a pretty meaningless
       exercise. Oh well, still looking forward to it.
       [/quote]
       It does annoy me coz it feels like a training session -- enjoy
       the first half and then drink a lot is my plan
       #Post#: 3867--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: fandg2
       Date: August 24, 2018, 5:49 am
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       --- Quote from: Blucherquin link ---
       >
       > [quote author=T-Bone link=topic=273.msg3851#msg3851
       date=1535102564]
       > Really hope they drop this Game Changers thing soon. It's
       pretty embarrassing. Decent starting team. Hope the number of
       replacements dosn't turn the second half into a farce. Really
       looking forward to being back at the Stoop, which is certainly
       not something I thought I'd feel at the end of last season!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       To be fair, it's a pre season game, to test out combos etc -- I
       won't be surprised if we change the whole team for the second
       half.
       [/quote]
       Yep, agree with that when I saw 10 backs on the bench, I think
       it will be a different team for each half.
       #Post#: 3868--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: August 24, 2018, 5:51 am
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       --- Quote from: Cookie link ---
       >
       > Cookie likes Bothma, but the jury is out on him. Same for Elia
       and Catrikilis. This idea that all three are going to transform
       our fortunes doesn't hold water until they play (and perform) on
       a regular basis. But my original point stands - we are
       desperately weak at hooker.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I can't recall any posts where a single player has been claimed
       to be the one who will change our fortunes. I see posts that
       suggest an individual may be just what we need, or what we've
       been missing, and as a turn of phrase I think that's pretty
       clear in its meaning.
       Bothma has a fair few caps as captain of his national side; yes,
       it's Namibia, but they didn't prevent the likes of Jaques Burger
       being a fine player.
       Elia has performed well for us, and the surprise for me was how
       long we took before he actually played for us.Samoa have
       produced a few decent hookers over the years - Trevor Leota and
       our own Tani Fuga being examples - and they are a pretty strong
       side.
       The Cat suffered a freak injury so we've seen very little of
       him. He's highly rated but time will tell whether he'll come
       back as the player we'd like him to be.
       Personally I think that all three are valuable members of our
       squad. I concede to your belief that none of them, individually,
       will turn the club's fortunes around. I'd temper that by stating
       that I don't know of anyone who has claimed that they would do
       such a thing.
       #Post#: 3876--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: Cookie
       Date: August 24, 2018, 7:46 am
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       My main concern is with the coaches' perception of Elia. Hooker
       is comfortably our weakest position and Buchanon missed all of
       last season, yet he only has 16 appearances. That's why I'm
       nervous about all the comments about being excited to see him
       play. He needs a season playing under a Brits or a Youngs or a
       Webber, not to be our best hope in a position we are struggling
       in.
       Similarly I am more nervous about Bothma's ability to stay fit.
       If he does, he will almost certainly be an asset. But it's a
       massive but.
       Not sure why Catrikilis has been dragged into this as he's not
       been put on the same pedestal as the other 2 and was just plain
       unlucky last season.
       #Post#: 3890--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: August 24, 2018, 9:57 am
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       --- Quote from: honkytonk link ---
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       > Season is still 2 weeks away so time for them to clear up
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sorry to hear you won't be going to the Sale game :)
       #Post#: 3896--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: honkytonk
       Date: August 24, 2018, 10:24 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
       >
       > [quote author=honkytonk link=topic=273.msg3850#msg3850
       date=1535102514]
       > Season is still 2 weeks away so time for them to clear up
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sorry to hear you won't be going to the Sale game :)[/quote]
       My life is one big blur!!
       #Post#: 3902--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: August 24, 2018, 11:48 am
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       Well, when we had the second best fly half in the world it
       didn't make a huge amount of difference. So individual players
       may not have the impact their name/position might suggest.
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