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       #Post#: 45108--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manu to Quins?
   DIR By: quinalan
       Date: July 1, 2020, 1:19 pm
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       All does seem in some kind of turmoil at Tigers, but you can
       fairly argue from Steve Borthwicks point of view that Manu does
       not offer enough for the games he plays.  But I would say he
       owes Tigers an awful lot considering how much they have
       supported him during the last few years. Plus the current state
       of things. He should knuckle down & commit to Tigers.
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       Re: Manu to Quins?
   DIR By: harlequins
       Date: July 1, 2020, 1:24 pm
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       Good point on we may see Manu at Bristol.
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       Re: Manu to Quins?
   DIR By: MadMax
       Date: July 1, 2020, 1:55 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > Swings and roundabouts, he turned down big money moves to
       France to stay at Tigers.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       ... and play for England!
       #Post#: 45111--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manu to Quins?
   DIR By: sussexquin
       Date: July 1, 2020, 5:08 pm
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       BBC report that he's gone....
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       Re: Manu to Quins?
   DIR By: Jedzi
       Date: July 1, 2020, 5:13 pm
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       The Guardian and Telegraph have the story as well now.
       The Guardian are reporting that 4 others have chosen to leave
       Leicester: "... Kyle Eastmond, the long-serving prop Greg
       Bateman, the centre Noel Reid and the full-back Telusa Veainu."
       The Telegraph have Jordan Taufua on the list as well
       The full story's here:
  HTML https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/01/rugby-manu-tuilagi-and-kyle-eastmond-leave-leicester-after-refusing-pay-cuts
       The Guardian article are tipping Tuilagi to move abroad, which
       of course will end his England career and may not do his Lions
       chances much good.
       Also - not an easy 1st week for Borthwick, suddenly finding
       yourself 6 players down.
       #Post#: 45113--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manu to Quins?
   DIR By: sussexquin
       Date: July 1, 2020, 6:01 pm
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       Depends how raw 2020/21 recruiting has progressed, could be a
       blessing in freeing up funds to strengthen squad. Timing of next
       season and contracts could be interesting if league doesn't go
       back to current dates of May finish to most competitions easing
       player workload.
       #Post#: 45114--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manu to Quins?
   DIR By: Bucksquin
       Date: July 2, 2020, 12:27 am
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       If Tigers have unilaterally decided to cut the players' wages,
       and the players refuse, then the players will surely be entitled
       to compensation i.e. payment of the balance of the money that is
       contractually due to them. That would surely mean that not only
       do Tigers lose the services of the players concerned but they
       also incur the entirety of the original salary costs anyway,
       hence inhibiting (in both money terms and salary cap terms) the
       recruitment of replacements until the end of the contract
       periods.
       .
       #Post#: 45115--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manu to Quins?
   DIR By: Jedzi
       Date: July 2, 2020, 1:59 am
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       --- Quote from: Bucksquin link ---
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       > If Tigers have unilaterally decided to cut the players' wages,
       and the players refuse, then the players will surely be entitled
       to compensation i.e. payment of the balance of the money that is
       contractually due to them.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That was what someone was suggesting on one of the Tigers
       message boards.  I don't know if it's correct; it seems a bit
       unlikely that Tigers would have pursued it if they had to pay-up
       all of the leavers' contracts.  The poster also made the point
       that, if they did have to pay up, it's a salary payment, so
       would count towards the salary cap.
       Worth noting that Tigers have made 31 other staff redundant.
       That's a big number for a rugby club.
       #Post#: 45116--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manu to Quins?
   DIR By: Domestos
       Date: July 2, 2020, 2:28 am
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       --- Quote from: Bucksquin link ---
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       > If Tigers have unilaterally decided to cut the players' wages,
       and the players refuse, then the players will surely be entitled
       to compensation i.e. payment of the balance of the money that is
       contractually due to them. That would surely mean that not only
       do Tigers lose the services of the players concerned but they
       also incur the entirety of the original salary costs anyway,
       hence inhibiting (in both money terms and salary cap terms) the
       recruitment of replacements until the end of the contract
       periods.
       > .
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       According to today's Torygraph (is it the Torygraph any longer?
       Not, going by some of the stuff it is publishing nowadays!) a
       number of Leicester players are reaching for their lawyers.
       #Post#: 45117--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Manu to Quins?
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: July 2, 2020, 2:45 am
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       --- Quote from: Jedzi link ---
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       > That was what someone was suggesting on one of the Tigers
       message boards.  I don't know if it's correct; it seems a bit
       unlikely that Tigers would have pursued it if they had to pay-up
       all of the leavers contracts.  The poster also made the point
       that, if they did have to pay up, it's a salary payment, so
       would count towards the salary cap.
       >
       > Worth noting that Tigers have made 31 other staff redundant.
       That's a big number for a rugby club.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It may be that if the players go to another club on a lower
       salary, Tigers could be liable to make up the difference. A lot
       depends on their individual contracts. But if they go elsewhere
       for more money, they're not out of pocket so couldn't justify a
       claim.
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