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Re: Looking Ominous
DIR By: Carbonm
Date: May 20, 2020, 10:37 am
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How do you get the test? This could be the case for a lot of
people so could be the way forward if this was widely available.
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> What about those of us who have had the virus and recovered ?
If you get it the survival rate is over 98%
>
> I am aged 66 with no underlying health issues ... I recently
tested “negative” for the virus but the test also revealed that
I have the antibodies in my system which confirm I have had the
virus and this will stop me getting it again
>
> There must be millions like me who have had the virus and
recovered without medical intervention ... we fall outside any
statistics and therefore do not influence government policy
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> As far as I am concerned if Quins were playing on Saturday I
could attend without fear of catching the virus or transmitting
it ... unless I am missing something !
>
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Re: Looking Ominous
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: May 20, 2020, 10:49 am
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Just to note : There are very big questions still over the
implications of a positive result. If there are antibodies in
your blood, it certainly means you have had Covid-19, and you
may be immune to getting it again. But nobody knows what level
of immunity is conferred, whether some people have an antibody
response that gives them greater immunity than other people and
how long that immunity lasts.
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Re: Looking Ominous
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: May 20, 2020, 10:55 am
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I'd also stress that the survival rate might be 98%, but there's
a big old difference between "survival" and "unaffected".
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Re: Looking Ominous
DIR By: Domestos
Date: May 20, 2020, 11:21 am
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--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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> I'd also stress that the survival rate might be 98%, but
there's a big old difference between "survival" and
"unaffected".
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And you might be one of the 2%.
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Re: Looking Ominous
DIR By: Quinky
Date: May 20, 2020, 11:28 am
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To counter the point about losses, whilst no rugby is being
played the overheads will be lower. Add in the furlough scheme
and there is at least some offset to the reduced income.
I understand in football,only a small portion of their income is
from ticket money. The majority is from TV, sponsorship and
merchandise.
I'm not suggesting that Quins could survive on that basis. But I
wonder how much of the gate receipts could be covered by a short
term pay per view televised game. In support of the club I'd be
willing to pay over the top to watch games. Say, £20 per game.
They'd lose out on ancillary profits - bars, concessions,
programmes etc - but with more televised games that would open
up further sponsorship options.
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Re: Looking Ominous
DIR By: Monte
Date: May 20, 2020, 1:53 pm
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Good to see positive thinkers out in force it is less deadly
than SARS and Mers that some of us have already survived and
less contagious in kids than flu. The under 60s need to get out
there unless they have underlying symptoms and live .... it is
less dangerous for the kids to be in school than walking to
school. We have to learn to live with this or life will pass us
by.
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Re: Looking Ominous
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: May 20, 2020, 5:20 pm
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--- Quote from: Monte link ---
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> Good to see positive thinkers out in force it is less deadly
than SARS and Mers that some of us have already survived and
less contagious in kids than flu. The under 60s need to get out
there unless they have underlying symptoms and live .... it is
less dangerous for the kids to be in school than walking to
school. We have to learn to live with this or life will pass us
by.
>
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Absolutely. Get them all out there. Herd immunity or let the
virus kill itself off.
Buggered if I’m taking part in that experiment, though.
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Re: Looking Ominous
DIR By: Rocker
Date: May 21, 2020, 1:59 am
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This can't carry on for ever or the entire country will be
bankrupt, let alone rugby. If people are going to work on trains
and buses to sit in offices then you might as well go to a rugby
match.
There seems to be increasing evidence that transmission in an
outdoor environment is negligible.
It doesn't seem to be truly airborne like flu or the common
cold, transmission rates within households are far too low, but
spread by droplets and bodily fluids.
I'd be back tomorrow if there was rugby.
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Re: Looking Ominous
DIR By: Boonie
Date: May 21, 2020, 2:52 am
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--- Quote from: Rocker link ---
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> This can't carry on for ever or the entire country will be
bankrupt, let alone rugby. If people are going to work on trains
and buses to sit in offices then you might as well go to a rugby
match.
> There seems to be increasing evidence that transmission in an
outdoor environment is negligible.
> It doesn't seem to be truly airborne like flu or the common
cold, transmission rates within households are far too low, but
spread by droplets and bodily fluids.
> I'd be back tomorrow if there was rugby.
>
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So - one sneeze in the West Stand, and dozens infected?
As someone in the high risk category, I'm happy to let others
test out the negligible outdoor transmission "theory". Good
luck.
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Re: Looking Ominous
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: May 21, 2020, 2:54 am
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--- Quote from: Monte link ---
>
> Good to see positive thinkers out in force it is less deadly
than SARS and Mers that some of us have already survived and
less contagious in kids than flu. The under 60s need to get out
there unless they have underlying symptoms and live .... it is
less dangerous for the kids to be in school than walking to
school. We have to learn to live with this or life will pass us
by.
>
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cool, SARS killed 774 people worldwide and MERS managed 866.
We've had 35k "official" COVID-19 deaths in this country alone
in the space of a few months - and millions of infected, with
many survivors badly affected by it, potentially for life. And
that's with lockdown.
Saying COVID-19 is less deadly than SARS and MERS is missing the
point. Yes, if those two were endemic things would be even
worse.
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