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       #Post#: 3595--------------------------------------------------
       Re: So, what needs fixing?
   DIR By: Dibden
       Date: August 21, 2018, 1:59 am
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       I had naively assumed our problem was largely the Jk led
       coaching team and there was little wrong with the players.Bring
       in a new coaching team and the players would enthusiastically
       respond.As others have said it is becoming apparent of a deeply
       ingrained cultural issue at all levels starting with DE who
       frankly is deluded that we are progressing nicely.Am beginning
       to wonder whether splitting the DOR role into 2 is the right
       answer.No one solely responsible for developing genuine team
       spirit and sense of purpose and oneness.
       #Post#: 3600--------------------------------------------------
       Re: So, what needs fixing?
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: August 21, 2018, 3:24 am
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       --- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
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       > How did that get past the word police?
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       It was originally designed as a forum platform for birdwatchers.
       #Post#: 3601--------------------------------------------------
       Re: So, what needs fixing?
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: August 21, 2018, 3:29 am
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       If this is what this place is like after a couple of pre season
       games I hate to think what it's going to be like when we lose a
       competitive game.
       The difficulties are there for all to see. Gustard has had a few
       weeks with the players, I expect to see an improvement on last
       year but I'm not expecting miracles. Certainly not going to make
       big judgments on the coaching team before the season starts.
       Sale and the first few games will be a barometer, not pre
       season. I get that after the last few years we're all seriously
       nervous about another season of poor basics, malfunctioning line
       out and embarrassing defensive errors and don't get me wrong, I
       am too! But... I'm not planning on starting the full on panic
       just yet, more slightly concerned.
       #Post#: 3606--------------------------------------------------
       Re: So, what needs fixing?
   DIR By: Admin
       Date: August 21, 2018, 3:57 am
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       --- Quote from: poorfour link ---
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       > [quote author=deadlyfrom5yardsout
       link=topic=256.msg3591#msg3591 date=1534833552]
       > How did that get past the word police?
       >
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       It was originally designed as a forum platform for birdwatchers.
       [/quote]
       Apparently hooker is now OK. I've pointed out the mammary issue
       to the powers that be. (Who seem much more responsive than on
       the sportnetwork board.)
       #Post#: 3616--------------------------------------------------
       Re: So, what needs fixing?
   DIR By: Archquin
       Date: August 21, 2018, 6:53 am
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       agree with A222Quin above - everyone needs to take a chill pill
       - this is pre-season - yes not great against Glasgow but that
       was not our first 15 and change takes time - give the team etc a
       few premiership games and then see where we are :-0
       #Post#: 3617--------------------------------------------------
       Re: So, what needs fixing?
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: August 21, 2018, 7:21 am
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       > agree with A222Quin above - everyone needs to take a chill
       pill  - this is pre-season - yes not great against Glasgow but
       that was not our first 15 and change takes time - give the team
       etc a few premiership games and then see where we are :-0
       >
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       Just to be clear I wasn't having a massive downer on the season
       in starting the thread.
       It was more watching Glasgow and being reminded of our mental
       frailty and failures at the tackle and breakdown. I'm v positive
       about the new era, but think it could take a lot of time to fix.
       It was a proper pondering over the psychology of sport, team
       morale, group-think, whatever really we think ended up at the
       stage where we're so fragile that any sign of our tactics not
       working, we fall apart.
       Can't wait for Friday!
       #Post#: 3621--------------------------------------------------
       Re: So, what needs fixing?
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: August 21, 2018, 12:46 pm
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       Sorry Bluercher but didn’t you recently say “ Relegation fodder”
       or was that someone else?
       I’ll start to panic if we get a kicking from Sale at home
       followed by a loss away to Saints
       Until the season starts for sure with more of the first choice I
       don’t think there’s a great deal we can learn from pre season.
       I’m hoping Gussy giving everyone a good run out to work out
       who’s match fit and wants to play first game
       #Post#: 3624--------------------------------------------------
       Re: So, what needs fixing?
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: August 21, 2018, 1:40 pm
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       Yeah, everyone concedes 50 points in friendlies, not sure what
       we can learn from preseason.
       #Post#: 3625--------------------------------------------------
       Re: So, what needs fixing?
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: August 21, 2018, 2:12 pm
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       So do we write the whole season off based on pre season Rodney?
       Is that the team we will see run out on a regular basis in the
       premiership?
       Yes the result was a howler, but let’s get a grip and panic when
       it’s necessary
       #Post#: 3627--------------------------------------------------
       Re: So, what needs fixing?
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: August 21, 2018, 2:51 pm
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       --- Quote from: SiB link ---
       >
       > Sorry Bluercher but didn’t you recently say “ Relegation
       fodder” or was that someone else?
       >
       > I’ll start to panic if we get a kicking from Sale at home
       followed by a loss away to Saints
       > Until the season starts for sure with more of the first choice
       I don’t think there’s a great deal we can learn from pre season.
       > I’m hoping Gussy giving everyone a good run out to work out
       who’s match fit and wants to play first game
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Nope that was someone else and I told them not to be so dramatic
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