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       #Post#: 42933--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Debt for Equity swap?
   DIR By: MadMax
       Date: May 10, 2020, 7:47 am
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       --- Quote from: Perdita link ---
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       > You are clearly thinking rationally and I see your argument
       and assume that in three weeks you'll buy your season ticket for
       next year with zero guarantee that it has any value.  I'm not
       suggesting anything clever like x% for Ły and z votes, just that
       if Quins Ltd want Quins Club to survive they could achieve a lot
       of goodwill for little equity damage to make all season tickets
       holders owners.  Collectively we could help them shape the club,
       and stop them scoring so many own goals.
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       I'm sure that if you have a word with the current owners and let
       them know how much of the debt you are prepared to underwrite
       they will give serious consideration to making you an owner and
       giving you a say in the decision making.
       #Post#: 42934--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Debt for Equity swap?
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: May 10, 2020, 10:10 am
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       --- Quote from: Perdita link ---
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       > "According to different sources, as of 2014 there were about
       10,000 Koreans in New Malden proper, and as of the same year the
       Korean population in the area around New Malden is around
       20,000, including about 600 originating from North Korea, giving
       it the largest group of North Koreans in Europe." - I wouldn't
       draw too much conclusion from a b** streamed football match.
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       Your point would hold water if it was only the Korean immigrant
       population watching the streams.
       #Post#: 42937--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Debt for Equity swap?
   DIR By: honkytonk
       Date: May 10, 2020, 11:04 am
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       --- Quote from: Yareet link ---
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       > Your point would hold water if it was only the Korean
       immigrant population watching the streams.
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       I agree with that, Im not really sure what the population of
       koreans is really matters.  I watched just because I wanted to
       see some live football.  I will watch the Bundesliga next week,
       and have been watching the Belarusian football also.
       #Post#: 42948--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Debt for Equity swap?
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: May 11, 2020, 4:06 am
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       --- Quote from: Domestos link ---
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       > Premiership rugby clubs are not commercially viable business
       propositions.
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       > With, I think, the one exception of Exeter all Premiership
       rugby clubs lose money. They are only saved from going into
       bankruptcy, or administration, or receivership by the generosity
       of the benefactors that each club seems to have attached to it.
       Harlequins have (sorry, forgotten his first name) Jillings and
       Duncan Savile.
       >
       > Quite why they give away 2 or 3 million pounds every year, I
       don't know, but they do.
       >
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       As owners, they presumably also own the real estate, which will
       only increase in value. Also, I guess it's a hobby. An expensive
       one, but in much the same way that some people go out and race
       Ferraris or buy expensive wines, maybe it gives them a dollop of
       enjoyment.
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       Re: Debt for Equity swap?
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: May 11, 2020, 4:32 am
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       You get Tax considerations for losses so I dont suppose its
       hurting them that much.
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