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Re: Analysis: So, how do you fix this mess called the scrum?
DIR By: MadMax
Date: May 1, 2020, 12:41 pm
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> Can you explain why that would make it better?
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We wouldn't all get deafened by shouts of "not straight ref!" at
every scrum?
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Re: Analysis: So, how do you fix this mess called the scrum?
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: May 1, 2020, 5:21 pm
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> We wouldn't all get deafened by shouts of "not straight ref!"
at every scrum?
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Why would that change?
Do you really think people shout “forward” for every opposition
pass because they think it’s a forward pass?
I think Jammy asks a valid question.
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Re: Analysis: So, how do you fix this mess called the scrum?
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: May 2, 2020, 2:55 am
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> Can you explain why that would make it better?
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A fairer hooking contest?
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Re: Analysis: So, how do you fix this mess called the scrum?
DIR By: MJW32
Date: May 2, 2020, 5:07 am
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Simple, down the middle ref's used to police it and still do
where my boy plays, or continue having League scrums and maybe
reduce the players in the scrum....
Just a thought...
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Re: Analysis: So, how do you fix this mess called the scrum?
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: May 2, 2020, 5:18 am
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> A fairer hooking contest?
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But how would it alter the mess we currently have?
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Re: Analysis: So, how do you fix this mess called the scrum?
DIR By: MadMax
Date: May 2, 2020, 6:22 am
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> Why would that change?
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> Do you really think people shout “forward” for every
opposition pass because they think it’s a forward pass?
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> I think Jammy asks a valid question.
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Apologies for trying to be light-hearted.
I must be more serious.
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Re: Analysis: So, how do you fix this mess called the scrum?
DIR By: SwindonQuin
Date: May 2, 2020, 6:42 am
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Good luck getting the TMO to check on a at straight feed at the
scrum, they can't even effectively communicate about off side
during the game!
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Re: Analysis: So, how do you fix this mess called the scrum?
DIR By: Dibden
Date: May 2, 2020, 8:02 am
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Please enlighten me.Why would any prop deliberately collapse a
scrum knowing he risks a penalty?Dont a lot of scrums collapse
involuntarily as opposed to deliberate.As a former 15 require
education
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Re: Analysis: So, how do you fix this mess called the scrum?
DIR By: DOK
Date: May 2, 2020, 9:03 am
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I wonder if one answer (and it sounds like heretical rugby
league) would be to have just one person in the back row. With
two people less pushing, the likelihood of collapse is less
since there'll be less power coming through the front rows. Not
sure what you do with the spares from the back row. Get rid of
them completely, go to a 13 man game? More space, less people,
more running rugby? Stick them with the forwards? Or directly
behind the scrum?
Trouble is the game looks too rugby league with 13.
In the same way a team can give numbers for a line out, it can
give numbers for a scrum? 3,5,6,8?
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Re: Analysis: So, how do you fix this mess called the scrum?
DIR By: Mayor West
Date: May 2, 2020, 9:04 am
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The skulduggery that goes on in the scrum is a mystery to most
of us but I would guess that they collapse because the props are
trying to make it look like their opponents have done it.
Especially if they have been bested earlier. From what I
understand, you draw back slightly just before the shove comes
on and your opponent goes long and goes to the floor thus giving
away the penalty. It’s a difficult area to penalise as there is
so much that can be done to gain an advantage that you can’t
see.
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