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Re: Entire Six Nations could be called off
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: March 3, 2020, 3:11 am
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For 6 nations games?
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Re: Entire Six Nations could be called off
DIR By: ChequeredJersey
Date: March 3, 2020, 3:20 am
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COVID-19 isn't the worse epidemic of modern times and won't be.
It is worse than the flu, being very infectious and quite a bit
more virulent than most flu strains. However, the mortality rate
in reality will be nowhere near 5 or even 2%. The worrying
reason for that is that we will be inherently massively
underestimating the number of cases (lots of people with mild
symptoms won't present and some will and won't have been tested
for various reasons and even more will be asymptomatic), whilst
probably about right on the number of deaths.
The damage it will really do will be through our stretched
system. Currently 5% of cases get critically sick (probably
actually less) but they will need HDU level care at least and we
don't have any HDU/ICU capacity left in the country, both in
equipment, physical appropriate spaces and most importantly in
trained critical care nurses.
It won't be the Black Death but it's a good enough reason to
cancel an international sports tournament
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Re: Entire Six Nations could be called off
DIR By: Bolly-Quin
Date: March 3, 2020, 3:29 am
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--- Quote from: Quinky link ---
>
> As with all stats, there re several ways to interpret them.
For example, the number of cases could suggest that it's much
harder to catch. Similarly, what would the stats be for malaria,
for example? Or SARS? Or MRSA?
>
> The fatality rate needs to be taken into account with the
cantagion rate. Also, what other factors were involved? Existing
complications? What are the fatality rates across age bands etc?
>
> It's all too easy to say it's worse than/not as bad as flu.
It's like saying aeroplanes are not as bad as roof tiles.
>
--- End Quote ---
Yes you can chose to interpret them differently - if you want to
deliberately misrepresent facts. The Covid virus has been out of
China for a month or two - the geometric progression of
increasing cases (unless stopped by action) will quickly spread
the disease. It's not harder to catch - it's just that the
epidemic is in its infancy. The rates for flu in the US were per
annum. The fatality rates are included. It is too early to say
much about the contagion rate, but it is surely irrelevant in
attempting to define fatality rates (known deaths/known cases).
Flu and Covid 19 are both flu-type infections: an aeroplane is a
manmade device to carry people around while a tile is rebaked
clay sitting passively on a roof. There are very different and
comparisons are churlish.
It seems that you have taken a page from Kellyanne Conway's play
book of offering alternative facts.
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Re: Entire Six Nations could be called off
DIR By: Admin
Date: March 3, 2020, 3:56 am
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Six Nations confirm fixtures will go ahead despite coronavirus
fears
HTML https://www.rugbypass.com/news/six-nations-fixtures-will-go-ahead-despite-coronavirus-fears-reports
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Re: Entire Six Nations could be called off
DIR By: Quinky
Date: March 3, 2020, 7:46 am
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--- Quote from: Bolly-Quin link ---
>
> Yes you can chose to interpret them differently - if you want
to deliberately misrepresent facts. The Covid virus has been out
of China for a month or two - the geometric progression of
increasing cases (unless stopped by action) will quickly spread
the disease. It's not harder to catch - it's just that the
epidemic is in its infancy. The rates for flu in the US were per
annum. The fatality rates are included. It is too early to say
much about the contagion rate, but it is surely irrelevant in
attempting to define fatality rates (known deaths/known cases).
>
> Flu and Covid 19 are both flu-type infections: an aeroplane is
a manmade device to carry people around while a tile is rebaked
clay sitting passively on a roof. There are very different and
comparisons are churlish.
>
> It seems that you have taken a page from Kellyanne Conway's
play book of offering alternative facts.
>
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Bolly, you hit the nail on the head. "It is too early to know
the contagion rate". You also mention "known" cases, and as CJ
points out in the post before yours, there will be lots of
people who contract it but don't visit a doctor. Same with flu.
And tiles can be slate.
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Re: Entire Six Nations could be called off
DIR By: Domestos
Date: March 3, 2020, 8:17 am
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Also it is much late for "Entire Six Nations could be called
off", because a number of games have already taken place.
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Re: Entire Six Nations could be called off
DIR By: MadMax
Date: March 3, 2020, 9:00 am
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Just imagine all the "interesting" posts we will have here if we
are forced to self-isolate at home ;D
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Re: Entire Six Nations could be called off
DIR By: Jedzi
Date: March 3, 2020, 9:29 am
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The Guardian is reporting: "England's Mako Vunipola
self-isolating amid coronavirus fears" see here
HTML https://bit.ly/2vCt1eV.
Precautionary only.
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Re: Entire Six Nations could be called off
DIR By: Bolly-Quin
Date: March 3, 2020, 11:32 am
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--- Quote from: Quinky link ---
>
> Bolly, you hit the nail on the head. "It is too early to know
the contagion rate". You also mention "known" cases, and as CJ
points out in the post before yours, there will be lots of
people who contract it but don't visit a doctor. Same with flu.
>
> And tiles can be slate.
>
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The contagion rate is irrelevant when looking at mortality
rates.
And no, slate is not a tile - it’s a slate, viz slate roof or
tiled roof. Slate is natural and a tile is man made as opposed
to split and cut.
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Re: Entire Six Nations could be called off
DIR By: Mayor West
Date: March 3, 2020, 12:24 pm
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I’m sorry , I didn’t realise that being responsible for
spreading serious viruses that can kill vulnerable people was
ridiculous. I apologise for thinking that reckless behaviour by
possible carriers is partly their fault if their actions lead to
somebody’s death.
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