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       #Post#: 39397--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Quinssa CEO event
   DIR By: finknottle
       Date: February 27, 2020, 6:11 am
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       The bar service is an absolute joke and has been for years. As
       others have said... it's got so bad we avoid buying drinks in
       the ground. If a pub ran the same level of service it would go
       bust.
       It also contributes to the number of people leaving their seats
       during the game to avoid the inevitable queues at halftime,
       which I know frustrates a lot of supporters (especially those in
       the front rows).
       Personally I would never buy food in the ground as it's
       overpriced/unhealthy junk. But the queues are pretty big so i'm
       clearly in a minority.
       #Post#: 39400--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Quinssa CEO event
   DIR By: MadMax
       Date: February 27, 2020, 6:45 am
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       --- Quote from: Mayor West link ---
       >
       > I was told that a consultant was looking into how the poor
       efficiency of the bars could be improved. The bars are run by an
       outsourced company specialising in running bars. To me this is
       an oxymoron .  Like all things, you just need people who know
       what they are doing , not think they know what they’re doing.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       More money spent to find out the bleeding obvious then. Just
       send someone from the staff with an ounce of intelligence to
       observe and they will see what needs to be done.
       #Post#: 39402--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Quinssa CEO event
   DIR By: finknottle
       Date: February 27, 2020, 6:49 am
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       --- Quote from: MadMax link ---
       >
       > More money spent to find out the bleeding obvious then. Just
       send someone from the staff with an ounce of intelligence to
       observe and they will see what needs to be done.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Or sack the outsourced company and replace them with someone who
       knows what they are doing.
       #Post#: 39406--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Quinssa CEO event
   DIR By: Quintessential
       Date: February 27, 2020, 7:22 am
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       --- Quote from: MadMax link ---
       >
       > More money spent to find out the bleeding obvious then. Just
       send someone from the staff with an ounce of intelligence to
       observe and they will see what needs to be done.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Absolutely this. I forgive Quins a lot of things but the service
       at the bars is my bête noire, followed closely by the nosediving
       quality of the food stalls. I fill out the survey they do after
       each match to tell them that it's an absolute joke. Have done
       for 5yrs or more.
       I'll repeat the same point I made when the new queuing system in
       the King's Bar was introduced: it doesn't matter how people
       queue if the staff have never poured a pint before and stand
       around looking lost, getting confused about which beer is which,
       can't push the right buttons on the till....etc etc. It happens
       every single match, all through every season.
       It's London. I'm ok with paying £5+ for a good beer served
       efficiently. I'm not ok with paying £5+ to stand around for ages
       watching useless students learn how to work a bar, then
       explaining to them the difference between lager and ale, answer
       their clueless questions about which teams are playing, then
       getting them to deduct the cups off the bill which they took
       back but forgot, then having a rubbish pint in a plastic cup
       that was poured 45mins earlier, half of which will be spilled
       trying to get out of the rammed King's Bar.
       My suggestions:
       - Ditch the outsource company
       - Ditch the terrible Greene King deal and get nice beer in
       - Get a good hospitality manager
       - Hire teenagers/students to work the bars who like rugby and
       have been to a pub before.... ideally from the local community
       who want to be part of the Quins organisation
       - Put some proper beer tents in the south west corner and behind
       North stand selling good ales ....Bath do this brilliantly at
       the Rec even though it's not a proper permanent ground
       - If you're going to have £1 deposit on cups, don't try and
       exploit it at the end of the match by having 10-15min queue for
       refunds to deter returns...more return stations please
       - Expand the swipe station kiosk thingy as it works well (even
       if it befuddles the elderly Quins demographic)
       - Find a way to not close the Player's Lounge until after half
       time, as this puts more pressure on the King's Bar
       - Sort the Cask bar out at the south end to give quicker service
       for the <ahem> more hardcore consumers of pints
       - Food: ditch the big standard burger/fish and chip/hot dog
       stands, bring back a pie stand, get a better variety of other
       stalls in and rotate them (surely all those quality fancy street
       food stalls that do Summer festivals are at a loose end in the
       Winter?!). Maybe even get a bit of a theme going with the food
       for each match....have a curry matchday or whatever!
       - Appreciate it's not going to be cheap but paying a tenner for
       a lowgrade kids cheeseburger and chips in a 'club' setting where
       we are supposed to be members is absolute thievery. Doesn't need
       to be cheap, but does need to be VFM.
       #Post#: 39407--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Quinssa CEO event
   DIR By: nowexnavyquin
       Date: February 27, 2020, 8:04 am
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       Could invest in one of those fancy pint serving gadgets that
       Tottenham have, they fill the glass from the bottom just by
       placing it on the device. From seeing a video on youtube I
       believe it takes around 10 seconds or so
       #Post#: 39410--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Quinssa CEO event
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: February 27, 2020, 9:08 am
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       Regarding the food, I do miss the "World Food" stall that we had
       a few seasons back. Every game had a different style of food,
       cooked in those massive shallow pans & served with
       rice/noodles/whatever was appropriate. It was always hot &
       tasty. Of the current offerings, I'd say the Duck stall behind
       the South stand is probably the best.
       #Post#: 39411--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Quinssa CEO event
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: February 27, 2020, 9:55 am
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       Perhaps they should find room for the players in the Debs bar -
       its usually half full - and if compared to Kings Bar, then only
       &#8531; full! Then extend the Kings to include Players Bar.
       Ive never worked out why the players don't eat upstairs in West
       Stand - I'm sure the various suites there could take them after
       the game, and then they won't have to traipse over/round the
       pitch to have a snack/meal.
       Didn't the Kings Bar used to be open later? They used to have a
       disco (or whatever they are called now) after the band and close
       nearer 9/10pm? Now they try to get you out close to 7pm!
       #Post#: 39412--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Quinssa CEO event
   DIR By: Domestos
       Date: February 27, 2020, 11:02 am
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       --- Quote from: Bolly-Quin link ---
       >
       > Perhaps they should find room for the players in the Debs bar
       - its usually half full - and if compared to Kings Bar, then
       only &#8531; full! Then extend the Kings to include Players Bar.
       >
       > Ive never worked out why the players don't eat upstairs in
       West Stand - I'm sure the various suites there could take them
       after the game, and then they won't have to traipse over/round
       the pitch to have a snack/meal.
       >
       > Didn't the Kings Bar used to be open later? They used to have
       a disco (or whatever they are called now) after the band and
       close nearer 9/10pm? Now they try to get you out close to 7pm!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Did you put these questions to the CEO at the Meeting?
       What was his response?
       OK. Did anyone ask him about food and drink?
       I have been bleating on for ages about the poor quality of food
       at The Stoop. Never mind the price - the quality is rubbish. I
       bring a bacon sandwich from home - have done for a long time.
       #Post#: 39414--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Quinssa CEO event
   DIR By: Mayor West
       Date: February 27, 2020, 11:14 am
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       I don’t know what the deal is that the club have with the food
       outlets but if all they do is pay for a pitch the club won’t be
       bothered about quality. As long as they get rent it’s up to the
       food vans to sort out the standard of the offerings. I find the
       food and drink poor and expensive so don’t buy any at the
       ground. Who’s loss is that. Not mine.
       #Post#: 39417--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Quinssa CEO event
   DIR By: J Scott
       Date: February 27, 2020, 12:38 pm
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       --- Quote from: Quintessential link ---
       >
       > Absolutely this. I forgive Quins a lot of things but the
       service at the bars is my bête noire, followed closely by the
       nosediving quality of the food stalls. I fill out the survey
       they do after each match to tell them that it's an absolute
       joke. Have done for 5yrs or more.
       >
       > I'll repeat the same point I made when the new queuing system
       in the King's Bar was introduced: it doesn't matter how people
       queue if the staff have never poured a pint before and stand
       around looking lost, getting confused about which beer is which,
       can't push the right buttons on the till....etc etc. It happens
       every single match, all through every season.
       >
       > It's London. I'm ok with paying £5+ for a good beer served
       efficiently. I'm not ok with paying £5+ to stand around for ages
       watching useless students learn how to work a bar, then
       explaining to them the difference between lager and ale, answer
       their clueless questions about which teams are playing, then
       getting them to deduct the cups off the bill which they took
       back but forgot, then having a rubbish pint in a plastic cup
       that was poured 45mins earlier, half of which will be spilled
       trying to get out of the rammed King's Bar.
       >
       > My suggestions:
       > - Ditch the outsource company
       > - Ditch the terrible Greene King deal and get nice beer in
       > - Get a good hospitality manager
       > - Hire teenagers/students to work the bars who like rugby and
       have been to a pub before.... ideally from the local community
       who want to be part of the Quins organisation
       > - Put some proper beer tents in the south west corner and
       behind North stand selling good ales ....Bath do this
       brilliantly at the Rec even though it's not a proper permanent
       ground
       > - If you're going to have £1 deposit on cups, don't try and
       exploit it at the end of the match by having 10-15min queue for
       refunds to deter returns...more return stations please
       > - Expand the swipe station kiosk thingy as it works well (even
       if it befuddles the elderly Quins demographic)
       > - Find a way to not close the Player's Lounge until after half
       time, as this puts more pressure on the King's Bar
       > - Sort the Cask bar out at the south end to give quicker
       service for the <ahem> more **** consumers of pints
       > - Food: ditch the big standard burger/fish and chip/hot dog
       stands, bring back a pie stand, get a better variety of other
       stalls in and rotate them (surely all those quality fancy street
       food stalls that do Summer festivals are at a loose end in the
       Winter?!). Maybe even get a bit of a theme going with the food
       for each match....have a curry matchday or whatever!
       > - Appreciate it's not going to be cheap but paying a tenner
       for a lowgrade kids cheeseburger and chips in a 'club' setting
       where we are supposed to be members is absolute thievery.
       Doesn't need to be cheap, but does need to be VFM.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Agreed, was really gutted at the first game of the season to
       find no pie stand, then to eat a Bratwurst that was not remotely
       like a Bratwurst or in anyway served like one.
       I would quite like Fullers to take over surely London Pride is
       fitting for a club in London.
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