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Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
DIR By: DOK
Date: February 19, 2020, 3:58 am
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as exodus gathers pace following champions' relegation
HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-8017949/Saracens-set-lose-SIX-England-internationals-exodus-gathers-pace-following-relegation.html
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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
DIR By: Donuts
Date: February 19, 2020, 4:19 am
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A shame we don't appear to be in the market for any of them
would quite like Singleton maybe Isiekwe and Spencer
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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
DIR By: DOK
Date: February 19, 2020, 4:49 am
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Saracens seem to be trying to make them loans rather than
selling them. Assume you'd have to give them back season after
next. Would rather we carried on building our team. Also Gustard
sets a lot of score by attitud/buy in to the squad. Not sure
Saracens players would have that.
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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
DIR By: MadMax
Date: February 19, 2020, 6:27 am
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I hope no one borrows any of their players. Why should the
cheated help The Cheats?
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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
DIR By: RocQuin
Date: February 19, 2020, 8:40 am
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Can somebody tell me, if Saracens are just loaning out their
players for a season, and then wanting them back when promotion
day arrives, how (unless all their players agree to take a
sizeable cut in pay), the club will not continue to be in breach
of the Salary Cap, assuming of course that it will still be in
place at that time?
Can we also assume that as things currently stand, unless the
players have agreed to a pay cut, they continue to cheat, and as
long as that situation continues, they will never be allowed
back in the Premiership? But once again, that assumption is on
the basis that the goal posts will not be moved by a significant
margin.
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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
DIR By: harlequins
Date: February 19, 2020, 9:37 am
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No idea why any team would have someone on loan. Leave and sign
with a new club or stay and play in the Championship.
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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
DIR By: Mr_B
Date: February 19, 2020, 10:46 am
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they will be losing some players permanently according to that
article like Kruis to Japan etc so not all going on loan to come
back. Personally I'm glad we aren't having a loan player or two
from them, lets build our own squad of players who want to the
there and are there in two years time.
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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
DIR By: Boonie
Date: February 20, 2020, 5:19 am
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There are two things here - firstly, if this is really a loan
deal, then I could only see that being viable as long-term
injury cover, or for a team that is struggling and could do with
a boost in a particular position which may help them avoid
relegation or achieve promotion. As relegation is already done
this season, that's unlikely. Helping in a run for a premiership
title or a cup competition? Maybe. From our point of view, we
are suffering with injuries in many areas, so if we could borrow
a centre for a while, that might be a thought (not condoning
what Sarries have done, and not wanting to support them, of
course). Although, as it seems Quins were one of the prime
movers in the information gathering that has lead to this sorry
state of affairs, not sure they would want to come to us.
Secondly - permanent signing. Whilst you would hope that some of
the players had the nous to realise that something was rotten in
the state of Denmark Saracens, I am guessing that not all were
on these megadeals. If there is an up-and-comer in the ranks who
is looking for a chance to shine in the prem, and it really is a
proper non-loan deal, again I'd be inclined to trust the club to
make that decision and integrate those players into Quins. In
this case, there are likely to be some question marks over their
"stars", who really should have known something was up.
At the end of the day, we want the best for Quins. If someone
like, for example, Isiekwe was available as a permanent signing,
would we really turn our noses up at him, if he brought a
benefit to the club and could be integrated into the squad?
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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: February 20, 2020, 6:21 am
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I'd have no problem signing any of their players if they are in
positions we need to strengthen, if the price is right and if
they are permanent deals.
I don't really see why we'd want a one year loan, unless it was
in a position where we're looking to sign a replacement but
can't for another year because they have commitments elsewhere.
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